Expertise in Kiev (Ukraine)

[Евгений]

Сообщение от allexx

Do not know anyone in Ukraine?

Do not hurry, there's a lot to Ukraine come ... soon to answer ..
uriart,-your countryman.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от allexx

I think this is not the correct first step

No, if you're not a professional art dealer, this is the right thing .. on the forum a lot of experienced kollektsionerov.Fotografiyu can be removed (the message) within two days, or publish in your profile, and here give a simple link (if your picture glow on Online news will not).

[Altim]

Сообщение от allexx

Dear friends. Can you please tell where in Kiev (or Ukraine) can be made of chemical-technological expertise of painting? Contact the Kiev Institute of Restoration, but they impose complex, with a view of their "art critic", they say, you never know whose opinion you "sew" to our technological expertise.

In my case, I, as a first step, it is important comprehensive technological expertise.

And another question: who will advise the expert in Kiev (Ukraine) on Russian painting late 19-early 20 th century, whose opinion you trust?

Thank you!

The names of the major players in the market in Kiev experts:
1. Vakulenko (Russian Museum)
2. Demidchuk-Demchuk (National Museum)
3. Bray (independent he antiquary)
4. Tsytovich (independent)
5. Bychkov (Restoration Center)
6. Romashchenko (independent)
7. Kravchenko (Restoration Center provides an independent view)
8. Gorbachev (independent, specialist on early avant-garde)

Chemical analysis of the case only in the Restoration Center. Chemist two - and Lugina Raspopin. Lugina older and more authoritative.
Opinion of an art you will not hurt it with the "chemistry" is not connected.

Somebody might have forgotten, but only because part of these "forgotten" in commerce painting slightly.

At the regional schools have specialists in the field: zakarpattsev "experts" in Uzhgorod, on odessite (South-Russian school) is the one in Odessa Council asked Lviv has its authorities, etc.

Specializations strict as such no one. Taken for all practical. No generally accepted best. Expensive items should show more, the benefit is relatively inexpensive. Starting, perhaps, one should Vakulenko, because he ðóñêèé Art Museum director and chief judge of several auctions. Depending on his views to proceed.

[allexx]

Сообщение от Altim

Opinion of an art you will not hurt it with the "chemistry" is not connected.

Yes, but I need official tehekspertiza yet and all. As a basis for interpretation. And I say, write at once - a fake or original and will make data tehekspertizy. Just a third-party interpretation of technical analysis has not really bothered about me, I would like to start to understand himself. Especially because, as I understood, the details of my expertise to provide no intention - photo there, and so on, just text.

[Altim]

Сообщение от allexx

Yes, but I need official tehekspertiza yet and all. As a basis for interpretation. And I say, write at once - a fake or original and will make data tehekspertizy. Just a third-party interpretation of technical analysis has not really bothered about me, I would like to start to understand himself. Especially because, as I understood, the details of my expertise to provide no intention - photo there, and so on, just text.

In the Restoration Center is a judge - Tatiana Bychko. For all its ambiguity and odious reputation it just does not vparish nothing. Therefore, if it work look to be honest (and your case is such), most likely - not be mistaken. The meaning of her "Levachev" in this case? Either way, you can agree on a single chemical, it is done.

[color="# 666686"]Added after 5 minutes[/color]

Сообщение от Eugene

As it happens, on Yablonska (recently discussed), he's right?

It's not right, but in conjuncture. His work, I had not attributed, in Soviet Ukraine, there are alternatives. But if sales of something like (Russian paintings beginning of the century) will be needed expertise - will go to him, because he has a set of options most suitable. Plus there is such a moment - just to be honest look at a job or something shimichit for sale, auction, etc. Other relevant, unfortunately. And not all it could to deny something, we must remember this. Conjunctures, alas.

[allexx]

Сообщение от Altim

In the Restoration Center is a judge - Tatiana Bychko. For all its ambiguity and odious reputation it just does not vparish nothing. Therefore, if it work look to be honest (and your case is such), most likely - not be mistaken. The meaning of her "Levachev" in this case? Either way, you can agree on a single chemical, it is done.

Chemistry advise you directly to her? or go directly to those who advised above (in particular, Lungin)? As I understand it, T. Bychko - restorer, art history but provides expertise?

[allexx]

Сообщение от Altim

In the Restoration Center is a judge - Tatiana Bychko. For all its ambiguity and odious reputation it just does not vparish nothing. ....... most likely - not be mistaken. The meaning of her "Levachev" in this case?

......................... And not all it could to deny something, we must remember this. Conjunctures, alas.

Allowed myself to connect two of your statements. Do not you think that the odium, ambiguity and konyunkturnost is, in fact, synonymous with corruption? How, after such "recommendations" to trust such an expert?

[Altim]

Сообщение от allexx

allowed himself to connect two of your statements. Do not you think that the odium, ambiguity and konyunkturnost is, in fact, synonymous with corruption? How, after such "recommendations" to trust such an expert?

I repeat: when personally doing examination of their work for themselves - there is no reason and meaning of expert corrupt. All as in the song: "I have two phases, Mother" (c) Boris Grebenshchikov. A "phase" - work for auction in the "team" with the auctioneers, who must sell something badly, at the urging of the "great" and "their", etc. The second "phase" - the usual professional working out problems for a man who nothing else is asking. You need a second.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от Altim

I repeat: when personally doing examination of their work for themselves - there is no reason and meaning of expert corrupt. All as in the song: "I have two phases, Mother" (c) Boris Grebenshchikov. A "phase" - work for auction in the "team" with the auctioneers, who must sell something badly, at the urging of the "great" and "their", etc. The second "phase" - the usual professional working out problems for a man who nothing else is asking. You need a second.

Guys, you have these things written in a personal mail, and then the precipitate is unpleasant, as if we are in the Ukrainian parliament.

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от dedulya37

you would write such things in personal mail, and then the residue is bad

No, no, on the contrary interesting. Generates an understanding of how life is arranged.