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Язык оригинала: Русский #11 | |
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Promotion is a service (for advertising brainwashing of the population). But it is assumed that the population is also a post-industrial, ie, very educated and wealthy. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #12 |
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Vydergnul of articles about the singer's "String":
That cord when singing about "candidates *** algebra" - that young man, this kid and underground luminary. So they all want, let's burn, Serge. And when the pro Khimki forest - a bastard and mediocrity. And let them not dare to say bad words, and songs from him entirely about tits and ass, horror-horror, it's indecent. A cord between categorically do not care who the mother and jiving. He's such a modern akin: that he sees - and sings about it. Of managers now also sang. About alcohol and drugs. Pro-life, in one word. And it turns out, in the eyes of our wrestlers with the regime - a crime, equal to the Holocaust. When a person is not even against them, but simply - not for them. In general, for anyone. Because he is, damn it, not left, not right, not United Russia and marshist. He is a musician and an ordinary citizen. And they all want that art was not even a social and political. To actors, musicians, writers do not just write about politics - that they become its subjects. The only problem is that once an artist becomes the subject of politics, he nafig ceases to be an artist. Because it ceases to engage in creative work, starting in place of the agitation and propaganda. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #13 |
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Dmitry Bykov: Cord can always hide behind the banter and banter that had a high quality, with accurate hits: annoy excessively zealous environmentalists? And how. I think the most immoderate Shevchuk angered fans, and can well understand people who are annoying pathetic and tragic Shevchuk. That's really all anyone seriously. Power has the right postebatsya? Absolutely. Even porugivaya Shevchuk in telebesede with Kirkorov, he openly mocks it all over Kirkorov. All the fun and recognizable, and the problem in one: Glamour is over, and along with it - and banter, and doublethink. Came a new era of seriousness and pathos, and the cord had not noticed, remaining five years of corporate Courchevel, which is why the attempt to revive the group "Leningrad" makes such a miserable experience. Time, the "Leningrad" Schnur shift time Bickford - late, my friend, drink beer and sing about "big and thick x ... in me." He's already in all, and it has no x ... not fun. Sometimes, that's okay, the artist does not have to resonate with the times, although it should be replaced by experience - it shows sensitivity, customizing the mental apparatus. The paradox, but those who now seriously struggling with Shevchuk - better sense of aesthetics teens than those who are totally ironic, in the spirit of zero. Number of absurdity turned into money, an ironic lack of participation did not get off, it's time of serious reflection and self-determination, and the heroes of this time - is not a group of Leningrad. Strings on this background - a sad anachronism, and its clip so imprudently praised "suverentsy" - not a moral mistake, and stylistic. However, as history teaches, stylistic errors, and is the worst. Whoever said filth, yet can cause respect, but the one who farted during a tragic monologue ... Well, what's to discuss? Lost and gone further. ![]() here. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #14 |
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At the time, an exhibition in the arena could only ochchen links and Glazunov as did a history cleaner detective. The scandal was then in fact that Glazunov had refused to show because he was not allowed to show this stupid picture of him with the royal tribe, but then allegedly allowed. The people did not go to art but because of curiosity. It was after this exhibition came into use, the term "a la Russia."
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Язык оригинала: Русский #15 | ||
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In the postindustrial different dynamic: the owners of businesses in udalenku throws, owns the rights and live in krokodillovyh islands, where offshore and heat. Taxes also pay for krokodillovyh. Production shipped to third countries. Since taxes are effectively gone, the States can not afford social. assurance and control, so a minority of post-industrial population (owners) live in urban enclaves, (they are already under construction in 10 years will be very noticeable). The remaining 90%or more - in a cyber-punk big cities and abandoned areas. I do not think that it promotes the formation and viability. Now about the promotion. There is a small chance that the inhabitants of the enclaves and the truth will be better educated with better taste. But! Laws of the art market in the form as they look today - a collection of elegant speculations. They are designed for escalation. And escalation is based on the fact that this one art object, whatever it may be - known to millions. So - to miss this thought in a million in the Post-Industriale becomes easier and easier. Harder to create the idea that you can PR, than to make the product itself. It is easy to see that trash-art facility is much easier to create, and then wrap it in many, many layers piarnoy reality. I think the difference between a time-consuming, thought-intensive and technologically-intensive painting of the Renaissance masters and the "handsome man" F.Gonsalesa-Torres (355 pounds blue and white lollipops) are quite obvious. The second - a typical post-industrial, GHM, product ... MGM.Yes - probably a product.
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Язык оригинала: Русский #16 | |
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In the first sentence of the lack of logic (even direct) - see for yourself. If the cost pr-va goods "negligible", that is why this must follow that it is better to be sold "trash"? About "6000000000" - signs of post-industrial extend to a maximum of 1 billion. (U.S., Europe and even a few). The others are all in the same forest (some in the industrial). "Cyber-punk big cities and abandoned areas" - this is about Germany, Switzerland, Melbourne or New York? It's over there with a social-software bad? What I do all that - in my opinion, you have built a base out of the void, using the term "post-industrialization, and this emptiness erected a theory of the sale of nonsense, as the invention of recent times. Although views about sold nonsense attended before: "daub the Impressionists," "black-black square, which I can draw," "Tamagotchi" ... |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #17 | |||
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"the right thing is not so easy to sell shit is selling like hot cakes dismantle " (If you wish to know the interpreter got into the closet, take a look). So it's a nice feature of the human psyche, even if it was known. Now on. The production of normal goods, whose quality you can check on personal experience - that is, everyday things - was cheap. But who will give him a lot? Money is made only at the speed, quantity. The best example - the chewing gum. It is impossible to catch per unit more profitable. In fact, it's normal, because the product simply stamped. And as things domestic, verifiable - it is hard to catch up Baida about great ideas. Advertisers are trying to do it, with varying success. But only very very naive person would believe in the "excellent properties of this unique soap." One step further, look at a more expensive product, "handmade soap." It would seem complete nonsense - with such abundance of goods people bend back over the soap-making. But this is "handmade" and it is much more expensive ... So? I looked at the vendor's website soap. There are already places art in such a lather just pathetic. But the nomination is "soap" - that is, household goods. I am sure that production is not too expensive, but bracteoles-upakovochki ... continue? Have almost the same product - but with a noticeable rise in prices. And yet, here money is spent a lot - real butter, time again ... - So that profits can be average or above chsut, but not much. Going further exacerbates the picture. trash to create a product easier - physically. So throwing the saddest procedure - the cost of material plus the time for personalization. Write a mural for a long time, the square - much faster, sorry, my friend Malevich, nothing against you have not, just because you got. As outlined in the Chinese verse, owned this type of product is easier to sell - if you wrap it in mythology and bring it to the client. And if to convey to everybody - the client to pay extra for uniqueness. Note - I'm not saying that the trash will be sold in large quantities. Why? Who will buy? For the trash can immediately snap nemeryannom profit as a shark in the marinade. In addition, trash is easier to wrap the product in the PR and the shell of expectations, because few people realized it. - Barrymore, what is it? " - It is silent fish Baskervilles, Sir. Цитата:
- all this business has greatly changed picture of the forecast. Yes, developed countries are now at the beginning of the post-industrialization (he was not more than 10 years, thought at the time of active development Inet businesses and therefore highly dependent on communications). And, of course, most of the countries present in the post-industrialization is not moved. poetmou all the effects so far appear smoother, and there is still life to compensate them, and camouflage. so far - the key word. Even now, quite openly write that the pension and health care in Europe and the U.S. - precisely to current retirees.Цитата:
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Язык оригинала: Русский #18 |
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No, comrade Fed, then you are fundamentally wrong - such "nonsense" (bubble sovriska) in the 21 century, there has never been, it's you that I firmly declare (see at least " How to sell a stuffed shark over 12 million) .. Here I agree with Anna on 1000%!
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Язык оригинала: Русский #19 |
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NATA NOVA, for sure!
![]() Donald Thompson, "How to sell for $ 12 million stuffed shark. Scandalous truth about contemporary art and auction houses' In an Internet text no (I have not found - may be another lucky?) - But it's for the budget price of 259 p sold in ordinary bookstores. I liked the approach of the professor. He was academic, to get down to details and excellent writing. To my knowledge, hunches and knowledge of certain technologies - is written well enough. That he nedotskazal - you can think out. I hope the professor is in good health! So I want to say - if the world of auction houses and in general the business as a whole is built on the games, why only the box type Hirst consider it possible to know all this? Maybe that's why a good artist so hard to break and create innovation? Knowledge - is a real strength. I simply have to make from it a step aside, to forget everything and be creative. And then - a step back, and think. And so on ... Obtained Waltz
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