Help please find out what this picture

[sergejnowo]

uriart, you probably looked at the history of sales son Heinricha HARTUNGa (1851-1919), - Heinricha HARTUNGa (1888-1966).
And the Pope, Heinrich HARTUNG (1851-1919), much as 109 sales. This is a record sale: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/l...jectID=1558026
I suppose that the size of about 80 x 100 cm, the price of that work in perfect condition, a respectable German auction, gross, not less than 3000 euros.
Relatively clean.
Clear can be, but certainly not bow or soap Vodicka. Optical work unambiguously lose a good part of the charm, which is attached to yellow.
In this state, at a decent German auction of the work will not take. While this is not a problem, he immediately offered to clean up their forces for 200 - 300 euros.
Regarding the price now.
I guess that a dealer in Germany, will buy up to no more than 500 euros. Given the red tape /invoices with the auction, the auction commission + /- 20%, the price of cleaning, etc. we can assume that after all the works, in the hands remain 1000 euros.

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Сообщение от Eugene

After removing the paint, even in such an institution, as GosNIIrestavratsii, I personally ruined two paintings by the mid-19 th century .. why do not advise ..

Tell me more about what you call "ruined."
Vanished charm?
Were lisserovki and it is not taken into account?
Solutions /partially mixed layer of paint?

[Евгений]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

dissolved /mixed partial layer of paint?

Сообщение от sergejnowo

Vanished charm?

And it + new varnish, we have: a terrible, museum restoration, the painting almost became Novodel good cheap buy.
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Other restoration work (in GosNIIrestavratsii), for example: tears canvas, duplication, hauling canvas did well ..

[олег назаров]

Eugene, it is reptiles and hacks! it seemed for a private client tried, I, too, is seen that, would not bother with a scalpel and weak solvents, taking a large swab and wash chemistry, wash with paint all liserovki. Hands should be such a tear! sochuvsvuyu ...
 
In St. Pete I can advise is very good restorers if anyone should pay.

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[uriart]

[Евгений]

[uriart]

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Сообщение от Eugene

No, it is the museum, I mean, the horror that hangs in the museum displays after restoration.

I find it hard to understand what you call "terror, which hangs in the museum displays after restoration. I "horrors" in the museums do not see, but on the antiques market it fully. You see, for example, the icons on sale from the museum's restoration, building conservation? To the lost fragments were only filled, but not tinted? And now look what hangs in museums.
Of course, the secular zhtvopisyu things were not so, but the loss of original painting there is no oil will "fill", as is done in the "antique" restoration, for further sale of this painting.

[Евгений]

Constantine, the theme here is a little different, but I assure you, in GosNIIrestavratsii also hacks restorers work (not all of course), few works did well for a big thank you to them.

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Сообщение от Eugene

Cyril Syzranskiy, Constantine, the theme here is a little different, but I assure you, in GosNIIrestavratsii also hack work (not all of course), few works did well for it to them many thanks.

About "hacks", no one argues.
I just got over the term 'museum restoration ", pronounced in this context in a pejorative sense and decided to stand by exactly the museum, as the most gentle and restoration.