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Старый 01.06.2010, 08:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #11
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And he left, too?
No, not him.
That's me to the fact that he could not be ascribed to work only on what is depicted.



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Старый 01.06.2010, 20:21 Язык оригинала: Русский       #12
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No, not him.
That's me to the fact that can not be ascribed only to work on what is depicted.
Dear Sergey!
My starting point is not only and not so much liked by Volkov neighborhood of villas on Siverskaya as his masterly command of all imaginable and unimaginable tools of painting.
Ambush at the same place for any artist sketch pad, but what happened?
Volkov was able to step beyond the usual basic parameters (composition, perspective, modeling the form, light, color, stroke) and managed to achieve the main thing - he needed the audience reaction.
What infuriated many colleagues in the shop.
They do not know how and could not (were not able to - the German verb «können»).
Name me any of his contemporaries, who could achieve a striking effect of changing the perception of each of its repetitions plot.
Volkov was amazing, in my view, fantasy artist, who could not limit its repeat addition (decrease) trees, although he does it. Volkov was not able to («können») to copy their work. With his temperament is - is unattainable. He always something, but straight.
If you make a small hole in the tube with a good bottle of champagne - it spilled decaying jet. With foam and fast enough.
Volkov is a purely Russian irrepressible nature, such a good Braga, which will froth and pour endlessly, and, without any holes - over the edge.
     See what maketh Volkov and he liked borough.
Posted landscape. Not.
Posted cub. Not.
Change the year. Again, not that.
Stuck in the birch crown of firs. The tops of spruce trees in the sunset Counteropenwork closed the space, forming a kind of Colosseum. The walls of the Colosseum have turned the stream into an arena for the beam. Arena, decorated with birch. The dark fir walls simply push these white birches on the audience, dragging him into the arena. Pour the tea into the saucer, so go to the scene to examine it slowly, deliberately, at the same time and drink tea.
 Yes you have a saucer that Volkovskiy sunset ray zaplyashet himself.
And to cover your eyelids. You feel it yourself. Physically.
This is ownership. What can only the greatest masters.
At such moments, I do not care about comparisons estimentov. Well, where Shishkin with strangers bears in the woods before his magic Volkovsky ray?
That's it.
I'm not a bear, to empathize with bear games. Although all so well written.
 
Yesterday I wrote about snot, penetrate and current in each of the Volkov old woman in "October". All of these fir-sosenochki with river and fallen leaves - only the background for the old lady and nothing more. There is a picture of an old woman - and do not believe in a single authorship of the two paintings. And nobody, except the envious, has nothing to do with mastery of landscape images. Because in this case, the landscape - part of the aura of a poor old woman, who can not (shall not) be a bad thing. Volkov, not only made leak snot every spectator. He grabbed my throat and stung us in our eyes. After all, everyone imagined story of this poor old woman, beggar, who pehom rushing into a big city to feed and Living out.
How sick dog, which is looking for a place to die.
Each was born or born in the head has its own history of this old lady.
And the other old ladies.
Familiar and unfamiliar.
Who have nothing to eat and nowhere to sleep.
How does this rubles (dollars, euros, yuan) can vymeryat this Inclusivity?
Although each painting as a thing has its own (agreed by the parties) price.

P.S. Still, someone somewhere saw the plot of the second picture? With ray. I can not believe that Volkov has ceased to develop this plot.
In any case, cite the WCT visual ryadya mentioned my paintings EE Volkov, including those in the ranks of the paintings dubious (unsigned and owned by me).
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(were not in a position - German verb «mögen»)
did not catch on, but it does not matter
Here's an interesting video on the topic:



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Старый 02.06.2010, 19:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #14
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did not catch on, but it does not matter
Thanks for the comment, of course - können, imstande sein.
Just as long as I was searching for Umlaut in the keyboard, I forgot - why and stuck another modal verb (mögen).
And what of my reflections on authorship Volkova?

P.S. Thanks for the link - look at night.




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natural - können, imstande sein.
with the German need to tie - the language of heavy

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And what of my reflections on authorship Volkova?
By your works of anything clever to say I can not.
Even without decent photos is clear that the state works catastrophic.
Of course restoration is possible, but below the line, there will be almost nothing from the original one hundred years old.
Do not see the point of reference for a real comparison on it or is not he. Subjects works here does not count.
It can help a good photo?



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Старый 02.06.2010, 21:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #16
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Dear Sergey!
My starting point not only and not so much liked by Volkov neighborhood of villas on Siverskaya as his masterly command of all imaginable and unimaginable tools of painting.
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Читать дальше... 
Ambush at the same places at the easel of any artists, but what happened?
Volkov was able to step beyond the usual basic parameters (composition, perspective, modeling the form, light, color, stroke) and managed to achieve the main thing - he needed the audience reaction.
What infuriated many colleagues in the shop.
They do not know how and could not (were not in a position - German verb «mögen»).
Name me any of his contemporaries, who could achieve a striking effect of changing the perception of each of its repetitions plot.
Volkov was amazing, in my view, fantasy artist, who could not limit its repeat addition (decrease) trees, although he does it. Volkov was not able to («mögen») to copy their work. With his temperament is - is unattainable. He always something, but straight.
If you make a small hole in the tube with a good bottle of champagne - it spilled decaying jet. With foam and fast enough.
Volkov is a purely Russian irrepressible nature, such a good Braga, which will froth and pour endlessly, and, without any holes - over the edge.
See what maketh Volkov and he liked borough.
Posted landscape. Not.
Posted cub. Not.
Change the year. Again, not that.
Stuck in the birch crown of firs. The tops of spruce trees in the sunset Counteropenwork closed the space, forming a kind of Colosseum. The walls of the Colosseum have turned the stream into an arena for the beam. Arena, decorated with birch. The dark fir walls simply push these white birches on the audience, dragging him into the arena. Pour the tea into the saucer, so go to the scene to examine it slowly, deliberately, at the same time and drink tea.
Yes you have a saucer that Volkovskiy sunset ray zaplyashet himself.
And to cover your eyelids. You feel it yourself. Physically.
This is ownership. What can only the greatest masters.
At such moments, I do not care about comparisons estimentov. Well, where Shishkin with strangers bears in the woods before his magic Volkovsky ray?
That's it.
I'm not a bear, bears to empathize. Although all so well written.

Yesterday I wrote about snot, penetrate and current in each of the Volkov old woman in "October". All of these fir-sosenochki with river and fallen leaves - only the background for the old lady and nothing more. There is a picture of an old woman - and do not believe in a single authorship of the two paintings. And nobody, except the envious, has nothing to do with mastery of landscape images. Because in this case, the landscape - part of the aura of a poor old woman, who can not (shall not) be a bad thing. Volkov, not only made leak snot every spectator. He grabbed my throat and stung us in our eyes. After all, everyone imagined story of this poor old woman, beggar, who pehom rushing into a big city to feed and Living out.
How sick dog, which is looking for a place to die.
Each was born or born in the head has its own history of this old lady.
And the other old ladies.
Familiar and unfamiliar.
Who have nothing to eat and nowhere to sleep.
How does this rubles (dollars, euros, yuan) can vymeryat this Inclusivity?
Although each painting as a thing has its own (agreed by the parties) price.

P.S. Still, someone somewhere saw the plot of the second picture? With ray. I can not believe that Volkov has ceased to develop this plot.
Just in case cite a number of visual art I have mentioned EE Volkov, including a number of paintings in this dubious (unsigned owned by me).
Читать дальше... 

Bravo, curious! Oda Volkov.
Hurry recovering.



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Старый 03.06.2010, 20:29 Язык оригинала: Русский       #17
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with the German need to tie - the language of heavy

By your works anything clever to say I can not.
Even without decent photos, it is clear that the state works catastrophic.
Of course restoration is possible, but below the line, there will be virtually nothing from the original one hundred years old.
I see no point of reference for a real comparison on it or not he. Subjects works here does not count.
It may help good pictures?
Since German is not to tie, but should be renewed. All the same, almost 40 years without practice - will be a bit too much.
In pictures. His condition was grave (consolidation, duplication of another canvas and cleaning) only in the autumn. Sunset in the best condition - just add the canvas on the edges, clear, glued so append a couple of holes and a strip of losses from the fold.
I believe that this problem will have a new owner.
My task - to deal with authorship.
The photographs have not yet obtained: we have "the clouds go sullenly," and about ready livanet.

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Bravo, curious! Oda Volkov.
Hurry getting better.
Thank you for the perception of my associations that have emerged from the paintings Volkov.
Something I like burst.
Sutures removed after a couple of days and can be run.
Perefotografirovat his paintings.
Thank you for your wishes for health - have helped.




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sergejnowo, and this chamber's of vVashego post with video, what is its purpose (utilitarian)?
And more. There is a beautiful portrait self-portrait Volkova?



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I believe that this problem will have a new owner.
Perhaps, as of N /s your pictures and find a new owner, but not as work Volkova EE
Themselves write:
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Both paintings ... without signatures - canvas cut.
If the signature Volkova they stood, and max-n /s and not more, in my opinion.



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Старый 03.06.2010, 21:47 Язык оригинала: Русский       #20
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Perhaps, as the work of N /s your pictures and find a new owner, but not as work Volkova EE
Themselves write:

If the signature Volkova they stood, and max-n /s and not more, in my opinion.
For a long time waiting for your appearance in the topic, believing that you really just tell my something on the second picture (Zakat).

For the sale of those works the way known - examination.
But we want to understand and own.

Interior work.
So many years and still hung hung.
If you have any problems with the examination.




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