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NATA NOVA, and then many were brought up on books, LN Gumilev. If everything is connected, then all of Russia was just lucky. But you think about why our fate in the modern and contemporary times - overtaking modernization. Imagine a tribute to - "for a protein with smoke" on the "sword with smoke", etc. That's the number of "white" and "swords" in the year from each locality. Ie economics does not work on their people, to its development. And technology is evolving, not upgraded, because working on the nomads - another civilization. And if the development goes (and it is), then with great effort, and it is incumbent upon all segments of the population. Princes as politicians also had to spin.
Look now objectively on Greece, Albania, Bulgaria, the Ottoman Balkans at all. And Romania! That's how the results look yoke. They just took less time than we have. Последний раз редактировалось Сима; 24.06.2010 в 17:31. |
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Question (historical) "yoke" is very big and interesting. I read a lot on this subject (the content of literature is not a lot and very topical question of authenticity), and yet I have the impression that there is no oppression there was, it was a single state (in understanding), which was good for everyone. Why else would so actively our princes, instead of fighting the invaders actively involved in feuds tataromongolov as they are in our (the big question is whether Mongols).
For example little known fact: Alexander Nevsky was twinned Sartak, son of Batu Batu, respectively, and was named for the father of Nevsky. Soviet history of this fact silent. In general, unfortunately, our history is still heavily politicized, hence the difficulty in the study. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #13 |
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Konstantin, vice versa. In our history, and it was not enough as the policy content. Just this side very well represented at the Gumilev. Ie history not as "productive forces" and "productive relations" and not as a "great historic mission." And like real life, as a response to the challenges - not only economic but also political. These examples you just about politics - when pripret, even fraternize with the devil, and sit at the negotiating table. In my opinion, it was a "soft" colonialism. In the sense that the cost, of course, pumped out, the damage inflicted demographic, but politically left as a kind of vassalage.
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Now I do not claim to truth, but ...
Think about if everything was possible and necessary. Цитата:
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In addition, the horde went not only material resources but also a lot of people (strong, young) got into slavery, so the fight was not the objective possibilities. Cooperation with the Horde was initially the only way to save lives, but much later - with the weakening of the Horde in the feud - way to achieve some personal goals. And bro, and married - and what could I do? By the way, one must bear in mind that in the Middle Ages the psychology of people very different from our ![]() There are examples in history when Russian princes refused to bow to idols, - the result of one: Take, for example, the story of Prince Mikhail of Chernigov and his nobleman Theodore. And because it is at this time, with the advent of St. Sergius Radonezhsky appear in Russia coenobitic monasteries, which approved the provisions of quietism - "smart doing", ie hotspots, so to speak, moral survival and strengthening largely demoralized people, which did not exist before. Added after 3 minutes This is a controversial assertion, which, in my opinion, does not consider single features discussion period - or time (centuries!), Nor the objective state of Russia and the Horde, nor the psychology of medieval man. Последний раз редактировалось Allena; 25.06.2010 в 13:30. Причина: Добавлено сообщение |
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"In the horde went" is where? In the bare steppe, in the nomad tents? Nomads in yurts? And that "many people" also lived in a yurt? Since the nomads in the steppes of herds of horses chasing vpoiskah fresh herbs?
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![]() Over a century of living together with other peoples the Russian language and culture do much to absorb, a cosmopolitan version of the Slavs turned. Good luck! Added after 3 minutes Цитата:
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Elena Glinskaya the daughter of Prince Davidov from Lithuanian kind Glinskikh and his wife Anna. A genus Glinskikh-Lithuanian princely family, and only expected, some possibly of Tatar origin. Russ at the time was generally bilingual and who are there on who has more influence, the big question. While the entire experience of mankind, affecting more developed and the cultural.
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1224-1254 Orda-Bazar 1254-1283 Sarai-Batu 1283-1481 Saray-Berke |
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Also, and collapsed and died, the kingdom, but something is left. A Kiev-suffering, for example? |
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