Russian Museum has agreed to postpone the ancient icon in the church

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Icon of the Mother of God Toropetzkaya not returned to the Russian Museum

MOSCOW, September 23 - RIA Novosti. The terms of temporary exposure Toropetzkaya icon of Our Lady of the Russian Museum in the newly-built suburbs of Moscow Alexander Nevski church near the village of "Princes Lake extended, told RIA Novosti on Thursday, spokesman for the Ministry of Culture Natalia Uvarova.

On the issue of an old and fragile image of XII-XIV centuries in this temple has insisted in December last year, the Ministry of Culture at the request of Patriarch Cyril, and request that, according to media, was initiated by the developer of "Princes of the lake," the president of group of companies "Peregrine Falcon" and patron, Sergei Shmakov. To store the icon was created climate capsule, which allows to maintain the necessary level of temperature and humidity, and her condition regularly assesses specially created for the occasion commission.

Father Vitaly Pelishenko, serving in the church of Alexander Nevsky, RIA Novosti has confirmed that the icon, indeed, is still in the "Princes Lake" and will remain there until March 22, that is another six months. According to him, the relevant documents were signed on September 21, although, according to one member of the Russian Museum, "The Virgin Toropetzkaya" September 22 expected back.

The story of Our Lady of Toropetzkaya "provoked a stormy public debate, from which it became clear that the representatives of the ROC welcomes the issuance of the exhibits of religious purpose of museums in temples, museum workers as opposed to this practice since ancient icons, usually distinguished by brittle, and withdrawal from storage with a special climate may adversely affect their status.

This week's first reading, the Duma passed a government bill on the transfer of property to religious organizations for religious purposes under state or municipal property, which is essentially concerned with immovable property and shall not affect the museum fund of Russia. However, the Union of Museums of Russia and the Russian Committee of the International Council of Museums insist on including a paragraph in the law under which the conclusion of the restorers and experts about the impossibility of preserving cultural object if it is used in liturgical purposes should write as one of the grounds for denial of a religious organization in getting the monument in the ownership or free use.

As Toropetzkaya Mother of God, also known as the "Ephesus," "Polotsk" and "Korsun", until the 1920's image is stored in Toropets in Korsun-Mother of God Cathedral. When the temple was closed, the icon moved to the local museum, and there have already sent in 1930 in the Russian Museum, where she became one of the oldest exhibits. In recent years, community-Korsun Mother of God Church, which is now restored, in particular, the means Shmakov, repeatedly appealed to the authorities with a request to transfer her ikony. /rian.ru

[Pavel]

But sometime before the Revolution, the Russian intellegentsiya fought for the transfer of the icons of historic artistic value of museums to the restoration and salvation of the masterpieces of the barbaric treatment of them in the churches. It was rescued by Trinity Rublev literally saved and saved. It turns out an adder is the reverse?

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September 21, 2010 in the open studio of Channel 5 was the transfer of "give all the churches?" at which one of the participants, Nevzorov was categorically opposed to any transfer of the Church of cultural and material values.
Glebych so otzhog that the clerics want to bring him to court for false and defamatory statements about the church.
 

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Сообщение от "Pavel

But sometime before the Revolution, intellegentsiya fought for the transfer of icons representing the historical value of art museums with a view to the restoration and salvation of the masterpieces of the barbaric treatment of them in the churches. So was rescued Trinity Rublev literally saved and saved. Grouse goes all the way around?

 Struggled, fought and doborolas before coming louts, and destroyed both the government and churches and the very intellegentsiyu.Ikony became "ceremonial objects" which were subject to merciless unichtozhniyu.Za rare exception of those declared objects of ancient art to fit into the context of the development of world civilization .
Bad - poorly вписались.Застолбились.Теперь process went obratku.Meshat he may or fools, or for personal gain. Give the church all of her toys. When they start to break down and disposed of consumption, the priests themselves will come running and will pray and promise good (for the most part of heaven - the church is the church) to fix and save.
And even if, despite all the efforts of the restorers, all these "causes" of the struggle between good and evil, an evil spirit, will turn to dust and chips story does not stop the memory of their presence in the physical world will remain as the left memory of the classic "Seven Wonders" of light Ancient World, despite the fact that out of seven - the Pyramid of Cheops, the only thing from "Wonderland", survives to this day ....
Priests also will only benefit - will be someone to blame and what obsnit perishability "incorruptible."

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From an interview Nevzorov: The priests must go to work.

- You said that the acquisition of the Church "bonus from the state" is dangerous, as these funds, it can once again be "buy the matches." What do you mean?

- When I say that is very dangerous to the Church of substantial financial aid, I mean that we should not provoke them to use those methods which are, in principle, consume. We see the aggression. We see the priest in the studio, who yells "Bite your tongue!". We see Nicholas Orthodox Burljaeva who calls me Sasha, read poetry to me, but losing the debate, running stitch denunciation to the prosecutor. You know, I have no reason to believe that the clergy seriously changed since the XIV century, when they burned and gouged out his eyes. Let us recall how recently they held a show trial by Moscow artists who successfully or unsuccessfully, I do not know, draw what they wanted to draw. We see how the prohibited to the opera "Tale of the Priest and his Worker Balde." We see the silenced anniversary of Leo Tolstoy, who was once anathema. We can see how on charges of devilry closed museum of Baba-Yaga in the Vologda region. And when such an aggressive structure, which is the Church, there are financial possibilities, there is also a serious possibility of influence on social life. In fact, they need to increase production capacity for the production of grace and its attendant accessories (we call them "magical"). This is a normal business.

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Toropetzkaya icon of the Mother of God will not be returned to the Russian Museum - left her in an elite settlement and will present the church.



Oh!
Orthodox, pleasing to God, the innovative!

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31/03/2011
In the Russian Museum was held advanced academic council, after which it became known: there will be no meetings with the press regarding the situation with Toropetzkaya icon (the icon of the Russian Museum was to address the Ministry of Culture issued a temporary housing estate near Moscow Knyazhye Lake. Now the Ministry of Culture has decided to leave her settlement prior to December 2011).

In museum circles indicate Toropetzkaya icon transported from the Princes Mountains in Toropets, and this time forever. And so in this and similar cases in Yaroslavl, Pskov, etc. legitimacy has been observed, is preparing an amendment to the recently adopted law on the transfer of property to religious organizations, which would deprive the immune system driven museum treasures.
On Thursday in Moscow, worked the advisory council of ICOM (International Union of Museums) in Russia. As the result of a decision to direct treatment to the directorate of the Russian Museum and the Ministry of Culture. The Council believes that violated internal regulations of the museum, while the ministry has a strong pressure on him. Experts plan to consult with lawyers for the Ministry of Culture of the lawfulness of the decision not to return Toropetzkaya icon to the Russian Museum.

On the struggle for Toropetzkaya icon Online812 asked Irina Shalin, a leading researcher at the Department of Old Russian art timing, which spent many years studying the unique monument.

- What happened on Wednesday at the Academic Council?
- The museum's director Vladimir Gusev, has announced that the deadline for issuing Toropetzkaya icon is extended until December 22, 2011.

- What kind of paper from the Ministry of Culture, have you seen?
- None. The latter document the Ministry of Culture, which has our department, the order dated January 28, we got it on February 25. He prescribes "to take measures to return the icon to the museum in the prescribed manner. The act of returning to submit to the Ministry of Culture of Russia ".

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- We hear that the icon remains in excellent condition.
- Toropetzkaya icon is unique not only the artistic qualities and Antiquities (XIV century icons have come to us only one), but also large in size - 82,5 x60, 5 cm wooden board on which the paint layer, sealed wooden interior studs and forged nails. Corroded and they are gradually pushing the board inside. Internal crack under any adverse circumstances can break the paint layer - for this reason Toropetzkaya icon did not leave the walls of the museum since 1945, after returning from evacuation. It was not given to any temporary exhibitions - either in the Louvre, or the Tretyakov Gallery. All directors of the restoration workshop of the museum: NV Peppers, SF Konenkov, SI Golubev, the largest specialists in their field, did not allow any movement of the monument. Technical and technological studies showed that the fracture was not increased significantly over the years, the state of the icon is stable. In the 1990's to maintain this state, we were forced to withdraw from its permanent exhibition.
Cassette in which the icon is now, the monument provides a good indoor climate. But for the ancient icons of scary climate change, even for the better. Changes in the state will be irreversible, as manifest through the years.

- Experts of the Russian Museum went to the village near Moscow, where exposed Toropetzkaya icon?
- Employees of the museum once a month explored the paint layer under a microscope. December 22, 2010 was held extended Restoration Council GRM with the participation of leading specialists from other museums. There it was noted that the icon needs a comprehensive study. A year after its issuance from the museum. This case is unprecedented in the history of timing, especially since we are talking about moving in vnemuzeynoe space. We have issued an icon in the parish community.

- Why can not inspect the icon on the site?
- It must be conducted on the same hardware as the previous studies, otherwise impossible to accurately compare the results.

- Returning to the events of autumn 2009. Was there an opportunity for the museum did not give Toropetzkaya icon?
- It's no secret that if a conflict arose between the staff of our department and the administration of the museum.
There was another side - the restorers, who in previous years, categorically prohibit any export Toropetzkaya icons. But the unquestioned authority went out of life, restoration workshop greatly refreshed. In November 2009, the so-called extended Restoration Council, which did not allow professionals from other museums, our conservators wavered.
Perhaps the Ministry of Culture, would be able to unscrew the hands of museums. But he had to try not to give an icon.

- And what were then told by specialists from the Department of Old?
- We just did not give the word, but in our vote to vote no one was interested. The Guardian does not put his signature to act on extradition.

- And it continues to bear the entire responsibility for the icon?
- Continues. And forced to celebrate in the annual report that the icon is granted for temporary storage. And the print curator at the tape with no icon.

- And the insurance value of the icon?
- I got lost in the long run of zeros.

Officially

Administration of the Russian Museum: 22 March contract expired on the presence of the Mother of God Icons Toropetzkaya temporarily stored in the church of Alexander Nevsky in the village Knyazhye Lake. The decision of the Ministry of Culture on March 9, 2011 term of the icon in the church extended until December 2011.
Owner museum treasures - the state represented by the Ministry of Culture. Russian Museum carries out the operational management of the funds on behalf of the Ministry of Culture. As the owner, the Culture Ministry decided that the museum is obliged to fulfill.
In order to legally protect the monument is currently the host country out insurance for the duration of the contract. Also, the agreement provided for the continuation of monthly monitoring of the state of the icon by the specialists of the Russian Museum and the constant surveillance of an icon online.

Comment

Michael Piotrowski, director of the Hermitage:

- History of non-return Toropetzkaya icons in the Russian Museum - a special case. We need a secure legal system of state guarantees and insurance to return the works on time. They are different for each product. We are fighting for back guarantee exhibitions from abroad. It turned out that they needed and within the country.
The museum should have the final say in choosing who will insure the artwork and when they should be returned.
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[uriart]

God-gods!

Caesar, Caesar!

A Princes lakes Toropetzkaya icon of the Mother of God!

And no squabbling!

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God-gods!

Caesar, Caesar!

A Princes lakes Toropetzkaya icon of the Mother of God!

And no squabbling!

Jura fellow .. well you noticed the problem .. add a little.

"A Princes Lake (in the face of an oligarch) .. hereinafter ..

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The director of the Russian Museum has publicly criticized the Ministry of Culture, dramatically because of the history of the icon of Our Lady Toropetzkaya
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A masterpiece of the first half of XIV century, let us recall, in 2009, was transferred to temporary storage in one of cottage townships, Moscow region. Neither then nor now negotiate with the Ministry of Culture in this regard does not work, said Gusev.
  
The Ministry has once again postponed the date to return the icon to St. Petersburg from the church in the suburban elite cottage settlement.

  A masterpiece of the first half of XIV century, recall that in 2009 was transferred to temporary storage in one of cottage townships, Moscow region. Neither then nor now negotiate with the Ministry of Culture in this regard does not work, said Gusev.

"It is often heard criticisms that the museum refers to this as to his property. It would be nice if they had been treated as good hosts, not" waste ". Or want a museum employee was, as the storekeeper. We do not care, they say, came to distribution list - given a stew, came another distribution list - were given a box of ammunition. We do not care that issue. No. It's a national treasure. And the government hires people for us to keep "- quoted Director Russ " Echo of St. Petersburg ".

"Icon to return to St. Petersburg for the prevention of restoration," - said Vladimir Gusev.

Icon passed in late 2009 at a temporary exhibition in a gated development near Moscow Knyazhye lake in March, was to return to the Russian Museum. However, the Ministry of Culture insisted on another postponement. A new term returns - in December this year, according to "Echo of St. Petersburg".

According to senior researcher Hermitage, keeper of the Hermitage collection of Byzantine icons George Pyatnitsky story Toropetzkaya icon indicative and not encouraging the museum community. Pyatnitsky also said that it - "the only Soviet monument of this kind."

Recall that in 2009 the media reported that the ROC Ministry of Culture requested to transmit a unique icon of the XII-XIV century in the newly built near Moscow church in the cottage, and in early December 2009 Russian museum gave the icon of the Mother of God church Toropetzkaya cottage village near Moscow in secret.

Later, the Russian Museum director Vladimir Gusev said, that the icon was transferred to the temple near Moscow under the six-month exposure, while the Minister of Culture said, that the icon will return to the museum.

NOTE: "Virgin Hodegetria," which is sometimes called the "Ephesus," "Polotsk", "Korsun" or "Toropetzkaya" - one of the oldest icons in the collection of timing. Its appearance is attributed to the XII-XIV centuries, the icon of the time in the museums of the world naperechet. Timing Specialists believe that the ancient image of the XII century and was once lost in the XIV replaced by a new, written by a master of Pskov, which does less unique icon.