Technique of oil painting and preservation of paintings

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Сообщение от Pavel

The Impressionists introduced to the art technologically.

What do you mean sorry??

Сообщение от Pavel

painting is superimposed with a thick layer

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Сообщение от Pavel

Vrubel artist compared in us from the Van Gogh

here I'm losing my mind !!!!

Oil-based paint by itself does not get dark ... mostly to get dark varnish, Vrubel strongly "lachili" ... so it darkens the surface paint on the impasto painting easily thinned problem ... they will have only those places where the blue pigments are added to the soot Gas - the pigment bladaet spobnostyu migration ie over the years, emerges through the other layers already irreparably ...

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Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

most often darken paint, Vrubel strongly "lachili" so it gets dark

No, there is another reason.
Vrubel experimented, he used to add Brocato to its oily paint to give them a shiny effect. Bronze was the dark, and the picture lost its original color.

[Seriy]

by litdannym, paint change color and darken bleached, and become transparent, like all colorful layer because of this show through the previously recorded location. Not to mention the fact that not all pigments are generally light-fast by themselves or in mixtures. Previously, though printed, that which can not be mixed. Now the producers do not write the pigment (chemical) composition - all became clear. Soot gas most established manufacturer in Russia, Nevsky palette - is srednestoykoy. I also heard about its migration, but he never saw in his work for more than 30 years.
A Future of pigments is unclear. In Europe, began to prohibit all pigments with heavy metals, lead, cadmium, mercury, molybdenum .. And replaces them with synthetics. GAMMA, a manufacturer hudmasla in Moscow now and wrote on the tube - Cadmium Yellow (imitation), r e is no longer cadmium. What they have light resistance and shelf life, how and with what they are combined - do not clear.
So that future developments of the classical an oil painting under threat, it is likely it could end its existence.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

What do you mean sorry??
 too bad turnover !!!<!--~ ~--><!--~ 7 7 ~ ->
 here I'm losing my mind !!!!

Oil-based paint by itself does not get dark ... mostly to get dark varnish, Vrubel strongly "lachili" ... so it darkens the surface paint on the impasto painting easily thinned problem ... they will have only those places where the blue pigments are added to the soot Gas - the pigment bladaet spobnostyu migration ie over the years, emerges through the other layers already irreparably ...

He considered that you are familiar with the technology of painting. Painting dark:
when it is not dried out the lower layer.
just in time splits oil
Vrubel wrote directly on the wet, sealed it with a newspaper, etc.
Van Gogh knew the technology and therefore tried to write quickly, which coincides with his temperament. Finish and changed too on the wet paint. Selection of colors in his match problem.
Pictures Vrubel not lacquered.

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It would be nice if someone would have the altruistic theme created by technology and shared to their knowledge. There was a discussion and would be interesting. Recent posts read with great enthusiasm. Thank you all.

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Cyril Syzranskiy, I too fall into a terrible confusion and concern in the hall Vrubel in STG. But the thought that it was from a failed architecture of the hall, hanging and lighting. I think it was a mistake to put the easel paintings in the same room with "Dreams", though for the enclosure. (I'm not a fan of "Dreams). Arts (monumental and easel) are contradictory, it seems that the decorative amorphous" Dreams "are not possessing its own vitality, and is used for decoration of architecture, a modernist and speculative, claims not to get her stamina in easel paintings. From this, they have some kind of lame and insignificant. I think so. And it turns out, they just turned black?

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Сообщение от Seriy

for litdannym, colors change color and darken bleached, and become transparent, as is generally the layer of paint, because of this show through the previously recorded location. Not to mention the fact that not all pigments are generally light-fast by themselves or in mixtures. Previously, though printed, that which can not be mixed. Now the producers do not write the pigment (chemical) composition - all became clear. Soot gas most established manufacturer in Russia, Nevsky palette - is srednestoykoy. I also heard about its migration, but he never saw in his work for more than 30 years.
A Future of pigments is unclear. In Europe, began to prohibit all pigments with heavy metals, lead, cadmium, mercury, molybdenum .. And replaces them with synthetics. GAMMA, a manufacturer hudmasla in Moscow now and wrote on the tube - Cadmium Yellow (imitation), r e is no longer cadmium. What they have light resistance and shelf life, how and with what they are combined - do not clear.
So that future developments of the classical an oil painting under threat, it is likely it could end its existence.

should be a palette of colors perfect balance. Do not be confused with the bright palette of dark. Do you make land do not interfere with their chemistry. In general, do not write lands and Vieste soot write to the bone.

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Сообщение от Sima

It would be nice if someone would have the altruistic theme created by technology and shared their knowledge would be.

Сообщение от Seriy

And the Future of pigments is unclear. In Europe, began to prohibit all pigments with heavy metals, lead, cadmium, mercury, molybdenum .. And replace them with synthetics

That's just today ordered titanium dioxide (oxide), if it does not mix strained, Prade on pure pigments, as the colors that of the study were to me as something more like, a lot of modern oil and fillers some, but oil paint is just a pigment and linseed oil (also poppy can be). Mix powder and oil to the desired consistency ... That's it!
All the pigments can be ordered vsvobodno. Never mind the last 6 years has not changed ..
More 3-4 pigmentovsmeshivat no sense. And in the scale to take only natural (land)
Pavel, and because the land by the way, do not change with time at all, why the Earth did not write?

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Сообщение от Sima

It would be nice if someone would have the altruistic theme created by technology and shared their knowledge would be.

Сообщение от Pavel

should be a palette of colors perfect balance.

Pavel, with a palette of clear, but let me ask, on what grounds canvas and you write a very important moment? From the ground can paintings and dark and yellowing and crack prematurely.

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Сообщение от Pavel

can not be confused with a bright palette of dark. Do you make land do not interfere with their chemistry.

Pavel, if not difficult to decode, please:. For example, cadmium (imitation) with ohrami can or can not, and what would happen if the mixture of? And a bright palette of dark is like? If you need shades of gray (soot do not use), sometimes interfering with 2-3 colors + white lead, which could be bad?

Сообщение от Artem

on which the canvases and grounds you write a very important point?

Pavel, True, share, interesting. What do you think of the canvas, "Hummingbird"? (Ready-coating on the stretcher) And yet, if acrylic and oil paints on top + pinene not cracked through the years-tsat? Forgive me for download, but can tell generously.

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Сообщение от Sima

I think it was a mistake to put the easel paintings in the same room with "Dreams", though for the enclosure.

I thought so, too, but I saw her when she was hanged. And she lit the way, successfully. A Vrubel easel there so, in my opinion, deliberately hanged.
To go, perhaps, today in Lavroushinsky?

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Сообщение от Sima

From this, they have some kind of lame and insignificant.

Exactly! Here you are as well formulated!
You look at the pictures and Greasy turn around, just now remembered some embarrassment ... Yes, yes.