Photography as an object of investment - Страница 2 - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

tivoli · 23.11.2009, 10:24

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bluberdf · 19.09.2012, 07:41

Philosophic question. Forms of self- greatest set . Trends in photography - also swamped entire net results and magazine racks . And only a few can make art . Another thing is that with the appropriate submission, for example, so you can submit a photo, too, it will pull on the subject of art. There are many options .

artcol · 22.11.2009, 23:52

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1. Can a photograph be compared with artists - namely, to create images and pictures of them, because it makes the artist, painting on canvas scenes (images) out of his imagination?

Sure you can - in the genre of staged photography. Many kontemporari artists and works.

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2. How do you feel about the fact that the picture can be sold 100 times, namely, the circulation of 100/100 ie owner of one and the same photos can be 100 people

and each of them pay for their mark, let's say $ 1000?

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3. You buy a photo? If yes, why? If No, again, why?

Among my friends a few people are buying old (vintage) photos. For me the important information in the pictures, not aesthetics, so I, for example, buy the album Dmitieva, not the photo - (in the album count last longer -> more and Information). But you probably ask for another picture

Galyona · 23.11.2009, 22:33

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... For me the important information in the pictures

For me, as important information.

Since 2008, I dropped everything and doing experimental photography. I sought out a variety of interesting information about the photos and "accidentally" in 2009 found an unusual book, "For the philosophy of photography". By Vilém Flyuser (1920-1991) .... A few lines from his work:

.... The intention of the photographer as follows: firstly, to encrypt their concept of peace in the images. Secondly, the use for this camera. Thirdly, to show the images obtained in this way to others, so that these images could serve as a model of experience, knowledge, evaluation and action. Fourthly, to make these models as possible long-lasting. In short, the goal of the photographer - and inform others through their pictures to immortalize themselves in the memory of others ...

What is particularly interesting for me was to read so this line, in which he writes about those he calls the photographers. I literally "kicking" the text of the book, but nothing can be done ...

.... With one exception: the so-called experimental photographers, ie namely photographers in the sense implied here. They really understand that "image", "apparatus", "program" and "information" - the main problems that they need to engage in polemics. They really consciously trying to create unexpected information , ie removed from the apparatus and placed in the way of what is not in his program. They know that playing against the machine ... the philosophy of photography must find that human freedom has no place in the field of automatic, programmed, and programming devices to a conclusion, show how it is still possible to open a space for freedom. The task of philosophy photography - think about this possibility of freedom - and thus the possibility of meaning - in a world beset by vehicles; think about how humanly possible, despite everything, to give meaning to their lives in the face of accidental necessity of death. Such a philosophy is needed because it is the only form of revolution, which we still have ...
V. Flyuser tragically killed in a car crash.

Allena · 24.11.2009, 13:55

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"image", "apparatus", "program" and "information" - the main problems that they need to engage in polemics

15 years ago I first saw the stunning black and white photo of Alexander Viktorov. After some time after the first viewing (and in that time I had a period when I had every day, has watched a lot of photographs), I suddenly remembered one frame - and I was ready to bet on anything that I saw him in color. He remembered everything - composition, drawing, emotion, drama, all the details ... But I remembered his color! And it was black and white. So photographer took this work is absolutely authentic, and it seems to me now, my perception of black and white print completely coincided with the state, as if I had seen it all not in the picture, but in reality ... Well, again a long-winded, sorry.

Galyona · 24.11.2009, 14:56

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15 years ago I first saw the stunning black and white photo of Alexander Viktorov. After some time after the first viewing (and in that time I had a period when I had every day, has watched a lot of photographs), I suddenly remembered one frame - and I was ready to bet on anything that I saw him in color. He remembered everything - composition, drawing, emotion, drama, all the details ... But I remembered his color! And it was black and white. So photographer took this work is absolutely authentic, and it seems to me now, my perception of black and white print completely coincided with the state, as if I had seen it all not in the picture, but in reality ... Well, again a long-winded, sorry.

I also had a similar incident with one of my first photographs - many facets of reality 8. First when I made this picture ... to say that I jumped to the ceiling ... to say nothing. But when passions subsided ... I started to remember ... where I saw the skull with this picture? I rummaged through the house the entire library ... all upside down ... nothing ... one hope remained that I saw this skull on the cover of "Faust" I rushed to check again ... but there was a completely different skull .. . I have only a few days to realize ... that the image of the skull was in my mind ...

AlexanderG · 27.11.2009, 17:34

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For me, as important information.

Vy narushaete "zakon klubniki".
On zvuchit tak: esli ia liubliu klubniku i idu na rybalku, to brat 'klubniku dlia nazivki net smysla. Ryba liubit cherviakov.

Govoria ob investitsiiah, informatsiia ne vazna, vazen prirost kapitala.
Esli interesno - mozem razvit '.

Galyona · 27.11.2009, 20:46

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Vy narushaete "zakon klubniki".
On zvuchit tak: esli ia liubliu klubniku i idu na rybalku, to brat 'klubniku dlia nazivki net smysla. Ryba liubit cherviakov.

Govoria ob investitsiiah, informatsiia ne vazna, vazen prirost kapitala.
Esli interesno - mozem razvit '.

Thank you, I realized my mistake.

gans · 28.11.2009, 01:37

November 26, at the Marble Palace Russian Museum begins its work a large-scale exhibition project - «First Salaries Russian Museum», which includes about 500 works. Their authors - 400 photographers from 82 cities of Russia. The exhibition demonstrates the state of modern Russia's photographs, presenting both professional photographers and amateurs.
http://artinvestment.ru/news/exhibit...obiennale.html

gans · 28.11.2009, 13:49

The most recent annual Salon Paris Photo, held in early November, a new order prices for photography. Starting prices for the work of artists-debutants have been in the area of € 1000-2000 - against standard € 3000-5000. Terminations photos Mannik Finn Esko (Esko Männikkö) in the traditional for him battered vintage frames on the stand Yancey Richardson was available for only a few thousand. Previously, prices have reached twenty. New Exercise "great and terrible" Englishman Witkin (Joel Peter Witkin) sold for € 6000, that for the photographer of this level and with this name is very cheap. However no serious exhibit late XIX-early XX century in the cabin was not observed. The trend is obvious: the gallery at the time of crisis hoard photo masterpieces of the museum level and will not stand untwisted fashionable young artists - at least at the major art salons. But worthy of the classics of the genre and the works have not yet been glorified young art-radicals can be bought for almost nothing. Almost simultaneously with the auction Paris Photo Phillips de Pury & Company - New York and London Contemporary Art Photographs. At first most of the lots were not sold, and the second price rarely exceeded estimate.

The technology and prices
In collecting photos, there are different strategies. You can spend big money on the purchase of masterpieces, shining in the major museums and the media, such as Man Ray and Diane Arbus. Here, as in any business, the greater the investment, the greater the profits. But the situation on the art market today spoke in favor of young photographers. It is much cheaper, but the jump in price after a few years will be more significant. If, of course, scent, taste and art-dealer will not let you down.

Mainly on the price affects the circulation, which produced a specific job. Photography in a single item - a large and very expensive rarity, the standard range - 5-20 copies, and in most cases less than the circulation, the higher its value. However, you can buy editions (work, printed a large number - from 50 to 1000 copies) or albums that were released on the contrary, a limited edition - numbered and signed by the author.

It should delineate the photo in the traditional sense, and conceptual art, in which photo is used as one of the techniques. In the first case valued possession virtuoso classical fotopriemami. In the second - led the entire idea, but realized it could be very fairly straightforward. This explains the high prices for works by the artist Richard Prince, representing only reproductions of advertising posters.

Who is buying
From the heroes of our time is more or less clear: the work of Andreas Gursky, Cindy Sherman, Jeff Wall and Nan Goldin adorn any collection. And yet, you should pay attention to the less well-known characters.

Ryan McGinley (Ryan McGinley). This 31-year-old American's not for nothing can be seen in the company of photographers Jack Pearson and Bruce Weber. Even those Titans photography has much to learn from him. McGinley is working with the invited models, but the carefree girl and boy on his photo look as if he was shooting people from his entourage. McGinley is New York's Team Gallery (http://www.teamgal.com/). In Paris, his works can be purchased through the Galerie du Jour - Agnès B (http://www.galeriedujour.com/).

Englishman Matthew Stone (Matthew Stone), despite its causes appearance, is drawn to the origins of classical art. In particular, Caravaggio. In his photographic canvases he impresses live installation. Introduced in the London Union Gallery (http://www.union-gallery.com/).

Collin Laflesh (Collin LaFleche) - graduate student in Tisch School of the Arts at New York University. His touching and very truthful portraits - rare for a debutant luck. This leads to comparisons with the great Nan Goldin. The difference between one thing: if Goldin rented marginal, then the photographs Laflesha - golden youth. Any day to be released first album on the artist's explanation of the project on the Right After graduating from school in the early days of their adult lives. Laflesh not yet got an art dealer, so you can contact him directly (www.collinlafleche.com).

On Russia's art market is also a noteworthy work. In December, the Paris gallery Ariane Dandois a presentation of a grandiose photo project, started by businessman Yevgeny Yakovlev (budget exceeded € 2,5 million). According to the order of Chevalier of the Order of the Legion of Honor, the photographer Jean-Daniel Laurier (Jean-Daniel Lorieux) took off in Moscow history, explanations of Bulgakov's "Master and Margarita" with the actress Isabelle Adjani in the role of Marguerite. Works can be purchased by contacting Catherine Barer by phone: +7 (495) 969 1556.

Where to buy

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28.11.2009, 01:37	Язык оригинала: Русский #9
gans Гуру Регистрация: 15.03.2009 Сообщений: 2,264 Спасибо: 1,961 Поблагодарили 3,561 раз(а) в 765 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 29 Репутация: 4950	November 26, at the Marble Palace Russian Museum begins its work a large-scale exhibition project - «First Salaries Russian Museum», which includes about 500 works. Their authors - 400 photographers from 82 cities of Russia. The exhibition demonstrates the state of modern Russia's photographs, presenting both professional photographers and amateurs. http://artinvestment.ru/news/exhibit...obiennale.html Последний раз редактировалось gans; 28.11.2009 в 13:33.

28.11.2009, 13:49	Язык оригинала: Русский #10
gans Гуру Регистрация: 15.03.2009 Сообщений: 2,264 Спасибо: 1,961 Поблагодарили 3,561 раз(а) в 765 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 29 Репутация: 4950	The most recent annual Salon Paris Photo, held in early November, a new order prices for photography. Starting prices for the work of artists-debutants have been in the area of € 1000-2000 - against standard € 3000-5000. Terminations photos Mannik Finn Esko (Esko Männikkö) in the traditional for him battered vintage frames on the stand Yancey Richardson was available for only a few thousand. Previously, prices have reached twenty. New Exercise "great and terrible" Englishman Witkin (Joel Peter Witkin) sold for € 6000, that for the photographer of this level and with this name is very cheap. However no serious exhibit late XIX-early XX century in the cabin was not observed. The trend is obvious: the gallery at the time of crisis hoard photo masterpieces of the museum level and will not stand untwisted fashionable young artists - at least at the major art salons. But worthy of the classics of the genre and the works have not yet been glorified young art-radicals can be bought for almost nothing. Almost simultaneously with the auction Paris Photo Phillips de Pury & Company - New York and London Contemporary Art Photographs. At first most of the lots were not sold, and the second price rarely exceeded estimate. The technology and prices In collecting photos, there are different strategies. You can spend big money on the purchase of masterpieces, shining in the major museums and the media, such as Man Ray and Diane Arbus. Here, as in any business, the greater the investment, the greater the profits. But the situation on the art market today spoke in favor of young photographers. It is much cheaper, but the jump in price after a few years will be more significant. If, of course, scent, taste and art-dealer will not let you down. Mainly on the price affects the circulation, which produced a specific job. Photography in a single item - a large and very expensive rarity, the standard range - 5-20 copies, and in most cases less than the circulation, the higher its value. However, you can buy editions (work, printed a large number - from 50 to 1000 copies) or albums that were released on the contrary, a limited edition - numbered and signed by the author. It should delineate the photo in the traditional sense, and conceptual art, in which photo is used as one of the techniques. In the first case valued possession virtuoso classical fotopriemami. In the second - led the entire idea, but realized it could be very fairly straightforward. This explains the high prices for works by the artist Richard Prince, representing only reproductions of advertising posters. Who is buying From the heroes of our time is more or less clear: the work of Andreas Gursky, Cindy Sherman, Jeff Wall and Nan Goldin adorn any collection. And yet, you should pay attention to the less well-known characters. Ryan McGinley (Ryan McGinley). This 31-year-old American's not for nothing can be seen in the company of photographers Jack Pearson and Bruce Weber. Even those Titans photography has much to learn from him. McGinley is working with the invited models, but the carefree girl and boy on his photo look as if he was shooting people from his entourage. McGinley is New York's Team Gallery (http://www.teamgal.com/). In Paris, his works can be purchased through the Galerie du Jour - Agnès B (http://www.galeriedujour.com/). Englishman Matthew Stone (Matthew Stone), despite its causes appearance, is drawn to the origins of classical art. In particular, Caravaggio. In his photographic canvases he impresses live installation. Introduced in the London Union Gallery (http://www.union-gallery.com/). Collin Laflesh (Collin LaFleche) - graduate student in Tisch School of the Arts at New York University. His touching and very truthful portraits - rare for a debutant luck. This leads to comparisons with the great Nan Goldin. The difference between one thing: if Goldin rented marginal, then the photographs Laflesha - golden youth. Any day to be released first album on the artist's explanation of the project on the Right After graduating from school in the early days of their adult lives. Laflesh not yet got an art dealer, so you can contact him directly (www.collinlafleche.com). On Russia's art market is also a noteworthy work. In December, the Paris gallery Ariane Dandois a presentation of a grandiose photo project, started by businessman Yevgeny Yakovlev (budget exceeded € 2,5 million). According to the order of Chevalier of the Order of the Legion of Honor, the photographer Jean-Daniel Laurier (Jean-Daniel Lorieux) took off in Moscow history, explanations of Bulgakov's "Master and Margarita" with the actress Isabelle Adjani in the role of Marguerite. Works can be purchased by contacting Catherine Barer by phone: +7 (495) 969 1556. Where to buy Читать дальше... Auction Phillips, www.phillipsdepury.com Sotheby's, www.sothebys.com Christie's, www.christies.com Galleries, art fairs and salons From the Russian galleries, special attention is paid to the "Triumph" and Gary Tatintsian Gallery (works by Weegee, Vik Muniz, Joel Peter Witkin, Yasumasa Morimura). www.tatintsian.com Salons are strictly photographic or modern art in general. It should go, for example, in Basel (www.artbasel.com) or at Paris Photo (www.parisphoto.com). Special photographic sites Blind Spot - a magazine devoted to the art of photography. In this case the exit of each new number on his site appears to sell a new edition (www.blindspot.com). In the presence of Stephen Shore ($ 1500), David Armstrong ($ 700), Larry Sultan (from $ 900), Victor Szroeger ($ 3500), John Baldessari (from $ 800). Foundation website Aperture Foundation (http://www.aperture.org/) sold prints of Robert Rauschenberg ($ 1020), Roger Ballen ($ 1700), Laurie Simmons ($ 510). Museums, large private and nonprofit galleries A number of large galleries regularly publishes editions of works of eminent photographers. More often is "looking" in stores on their sites: some of the fly at the moment. The reason for the price: $ 200-1 500 for the work of the photographer-star. Whitechapel Gallery, London. While still in the presence of different analog print Cornelia Parker for £ 120 plus taxes and delivery. www.whitechapel.org Serpentine Gallery, London. Works by Matthew Barney, Cindy Sherman, Nan Goldin and Hiroshi Sugimoto sold. But look here worth it. www.serpentinegallery.org White Cube Gallery, London. Excellent self-portrait by Sam Taylor-Wood with the police for just £ 200 and surreal landscapes Gregory Kryudsona of £ 2650. www.whitecube.com Collection Lambert, Avignon. Works of Nan Goldin (€ 800), Anna Gaskell & Douglas Gordon (from € 500) and Slater Bradley (€ 300). www.collectionlambert.com Book publishing In good publishing the exit of the next album comes with a limited edition original prints. Twin Palms. Luke Smalley for $ 750, Lise Sarfati, and Anthony Goykolea for $ 1200. www.twinpalms.com Hatje Cantz. Last monograph Hiroshi Sugimoto with print for € 6000. www.hatjecantz.de Art Publishers Published works of art. Edition Schellmann. In the portfolio - Cindy Sherman, Thomas Ruff, Jack Pierson, Nan Goldin. www.editionschellmann.com Counter Editions. Works Collier Schorr (£ 295), Juergen Teller (£ 500) and Sam Taylor-Wood (£ 590). www.countereditions.com http://www.robbreport.ru/article/?ar...951&rubricid=5

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bluberdf Новичок Регистрация: 05.09.2012 Сообщений: 3 Спасибо: 0 Поблагодарили 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях Репутация: 0	Philosophic question. Forms of self- greatest set . Trends in photography - also swamped entire net results and magazine racks . And only a few can make art . Another thing is that with the appropriate submission, for example, so you can submit a photo, too, it will pull on the subject of art. There are many options .