Your opinion about this picture

[наследник]

Amateur, well, you! Bad Russian - a sign of time. Even in the museum certificates for distinguished signatures of such descriptions meet - "ears wilt" (c). It's not even worth discussing.
 
I took another - as the author dared to write inventory Rembrandt? And a portrait of an old man's beard, doubting only in the year writing the picture.

Сообщение от OlegTsi

Proposed for atributatsii portrait (family heirloom), obviously created by the author in the same period, that others in this series.

What is it? Why is it dictated? After all, I had to find a site, register and offer ... Rembrandt.
From the picture, then all is clear, with the text: "inventories" too, but that's motives ... Weirdly interesting!

[Amateur]

Сообщение от heir

Amateur, well, you! Bad Russian - a sign of time. Even in the museum certificates for distinguished signatures of such descriptions meet - "ears wilt" (c).

Still, I tend to think that it was originally not a bad Russian, but some foreign language. I think the "inventory" was not written by the expert, but someone from the owners or sellers of paintings abroad (eBay?), And we presented a literal (ie, did not sound in Russian ) translation. And here's another interesting: but whose "family heirloom" was this (incidentally, it is noteworthy that in itself is interesting and quite good) picture? "Duke Devarshirskogo in England?"

[OlegTsi]

Amateur, thanks for all the comments, I was asked to help in the attribution and the possible sale of this work. Received all the information, read, watched, doubted the authenticity and decided to make this a topic for discussion at the forum. In short, for which he bought for sell. Thanks to all who put all the points on the i in my doubts.

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Amateur, Maybe you should not have to provide the text of the inventory? (I just made a copy of the text and pasted it in the window). Introduced her as the original (ie, without changes and corrections). Still, I think, that the forum should be to focus attention on works of art, which are discussed. This is not a literary forum for poets, writers, linguists and readers. What was described was presented by e-mail. mail along with photographs. Maybe someone and does not speak enough Russian, but it should not be Obligate criterion in an attempt to sell his masterpiece. I am Russian, too, is not native, but somehow with grief-half write. There is a claim?

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Сообщение от heir

Amateur, well, you! Bad Russian - a sign of time. Even in the museum certificates for distinguished signatures of such descriptions meet - "ears wilt" (c). It's not even worth discussing.
 
I took another - as the author dared to write inventory Rembrandt? And a portrait of an old man's beard, doubting only in the year writing the picture.

What is it? Why is it dictated? After all, I had to find a site, register and offer ... Rembrandt.
From the picture, then all is clear, with the text: "inventories" too, but that's motives ... Weirdly interesting!

heir,

Сообщение от heir

After all I had to site to find, register and offer ... Rembrandt.
From the picture, then all is clear, with the text: "inventories" too, but that's motives ...

If this is you in my address, it is absolutely nothing. Name of the theme was: "Your opinion about this picture?" Let me say, the view is not on the inventory of paintings or about me, you who made this picture for discussion. What's wrong? Why personal criticism for making a topic for discussion (site to find, register and offer ... Rembrandt). What to offer? Who and whom to invite? I asked your opinion, because it is doubted in the Rembrandt. If I had foreseen the intonation of your comments, never used in my life would open the topic for discussion. Many people read the site without registering. There are many who want to see a useful and instructive side of the forum. When such claims to the author of the theme (not the author's paintings or the owners paintings), the forum may lose in the future a lot of interesting discussions.

[Amateur]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

Amateur, Maybe you should not have to provide the text of the inventory?

That would be a reasonable solution. Had made a photo picture and asked to express an opinion on it as a painting by an unknown artist. They asked to make hypotheses about the possible authorship. I am sure the debate would become a much more practical nature. And you immediately - Rembrandt ... For detection of unknown paintings by Rembrandt would be without any exaggeration, an event of world significance. Miracles happen, but, basically, in fairy tales, so forum users and have decided that you tell them a story.

On language. We're not discussing your personal statements, but only the style and language of the "inventory" , drawn not by you. At the forum a lot of people whose native language is not Russian, they will never have absolutely no complaints. Moreover, the forum will be only too happy to add new members and expanding its geography. But agree that the inventory of an unknown until now confidently assert the authorship of paintings by Rembrandt, you must have good human (or even better - art history) education. Such education requires a good command of language as a matter of razumeescheesya. And when you see some, shall we say, "rough" language, and inaccuracies in terms involuntarily begin to doubt and professional qualifications of the man who wrote this "inventory", as well as in its conclusions.

You personally have absolutely no complaints. You did the right thing, had doubts about the authorship of Rembrandt. And if you think that the discussion was somehow marked hurt you, then please accept an apology.

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

Why personal criticism for making a topic for discussion (the site to find, register and offer ... Rembrandt). What to offer? Who and whom to invite? I asked your opinion, because it is doubted in the Rembrandt. If I had foreseen the intonation of your comments, never used in my life would open the topic for discussion.

OlegTsi, do not take to heart. Before you respond, please note, who exactly makes a comment. And it was there earlier in the comments vysskazyvayuschegosya Validating anything useful. It happens that people come to the forum to practice in sarcasm - what can you do, the party publicity.

[Allena]

OlegTsi, completely agrees with the authors of posts 14 and 15.

Сообщение от OlegTsi

This is not a literary forum for poets, writers, linguists and readers.

Quite true, but you yourself know very well how important for the attribution may have documents. Major participants in our forum pay attention even to trifles.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

I've just noticed the message OlegTsi, they are sensible, interesting, is immediately obvious that the new party knows what wrote.
"ABC" Narbut, Trush, "Steinberg family sheltered themselves after a period of Boris Sveshnikov", it is understandable that people in the topic etc.
I have such "newcomers" nicer and more interesting than many ...

[Jasmin]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I have such "newcomers" nicer and more interesting than many ...

Oh, it's not about me? I'm also already Newbie ... just yesterday drew attention to ...: confused:

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Jasmin, Naah, not about you ...
Congratulations to "starozhilstvom "...

[Игорь Гурьев]

Very average picture late 19 - early 20 th century.
It is unclear how the school.