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Старый 26.08.2008, 16:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #11
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saw Munch Museum in Norway, an indelible impression ... No doubt, one of the greatest artists of all time, hitting me most that created sovereshnno avant-garde things, having no connection with the "outside" world of art. A much about expressiveness and brilliance of his paintings generally silent. his creativity, he foresaw many hud.napravleny beginning of the twentieth century, and I think even contributed to their development ...



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По умолчанию About the "naturalism" Munch

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I do not understand on what grounds Munch and Hamsun recorded in the naturalists. these two (perhaps more Lagerlöf) to naturalism, in my opinion, had nothing to do
I understand your question. Regular surprise! Of course, from the standpoint of the 20 th century, annex Munch word "naturalism" sounds paradoxical. Let me explain what had in mind, some critics and artists in the late 19 th century, calling Munch's "naturalist". It was one of the views in the context of the state of the art at the moment. Here two things: some called him so, looking back, and others - looking forward.
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If you stay in the field of art history, the 1880-90's years as the direction of expressionism in art has not yet arisen, but in French or German, the symbolism of that time Munch did not fit. He had his own way (see first post), who attempted to comprehend.
First the first, who was happy to call him a "naturalist" to the amendment. Norway realism flourished in an effort to comply with the general direction of development of art in Europe in the direction of subjectivity and idealization. And the art of Munch, with its extremely subjective perception of nature, focusing on emotions and feelings - is the best confirmed this evolution. Therefore, the Norwegian realist Christian Krogh, Erik Verenshelyu, Fritz Taulovu - fellow Munch by trade, by which he was able to study in Paris at the money the state - want to see Munch in his camp as an artist, inspired in naturalism (realism), a new life. So they became known as the art of Munch's "subjective naturalism.
Now about the second. In the past two decades, the 19 th century in Europe there was the craze psychophysiology and everything to do with the unconscious man. It was claimed that the fate of the human subconscious forces govern the soul. Images Munch, reflecting the inner life of man, as well as possible consistent with this fashionable intellectual currents, so their not objective in his support, and art is sometimes called "psychological naturalism. But only in the sense that the images of Munch reflect the truth subconscious life of the soul. And with that context, I agree 100 percent. To reinforce this view cite a quote man, who invented the art of Munch's this term. This Stanislaw Przybyszewski - a close friend of Munch and the publisher of the first book about his work. He wrote in 1894: "Munk - the first artist who has recreated the state of naked soul in the form in which they occur quite independently and completely independently of brain activity. His paintings - is simply the art products of the soul in moments when everyone falls silent voice of reason, ceases all activity of thought, - preparations of the soul, as she weaves in wild gusts rises on its hind legs when she dries up in a gloomy stupor, screaming in pain and howls of hunger.
But the formal features and the very concept, of course, does not mean a kind of naturalism. Munch in the first year of study in Paris (1889) realized that you can not convey the deep feelings and the critical state of the soul formal methods of naturalism. In his method, he chose the path of Gauguin, after a quarrel with those who supported him in Norway.
Hamsun showed mental life of the soul as if through a magnifying glass (very reliable="natural"), as Munch. He seemed to be issued in the same year as the "Hunger" his essay "Of the subconscious life of the soul." Only in this sense meant "naturalism" Hamsun. So I tried to explain the combination of the word "naturalism" with Munch. It provides an additional key to understanding his art. About Hamsun unlike Stridberga and Ibsen, I have nothing more I can not say. I do not know whether you satisfied answer. If not, then the remaining questions with pleasure answer privately.


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saw Munch Museum in Norway, an indelible impression ...
Meister, and what you remember most? "Madonna" and "Scream" is probably not able to see? They are back on display after the theft only by May of this year ... By the way, in Norway there are more than 90%of the creative heritage of Munch. In recent years, the artist's life did not sell pictures, gathering a collection for the future Munch Museum, which was to become a monument of his life. In 1940, the eve of the German occupation of Norway, Munch was a testament, which passed on his collection municipality of Oslo on the condition that it will not be sold or divided. In 1944, after his death, the municipality of Oslo in 1008 inherited oil paintings. In addition, the city received a 4443 figure and 15 391 impressions. He also passed all the literary heritage of Munch. The Munch Museum in Oslo, opened in 1963. It has the largest collection of his works. The next largest collection is in the National Gallery of Oslo: 50 oil paintings, written before 1910, and hundreds of prints. Then there is a museum in Bergen, a former trader Rasmus Meyer collection. Fourth largest collection is Tilskoy gallery in Stockholm, the former collection of the banker Ernest Thiel.

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I remember reading his magazine, or some note - he has a very interesting, very unusual habits of thought ...
Yes, Munch was a contributing artist. He left five journals (diaries) and a lot of disparate texts. His memories of playing for his role in the development of creative motivation. In fact, he painted, based on his memory, and these records. Most of his images - retrospective (from the experienced past). So now, it's still possible to judge the author's conception of the artist about a particular painting. This is important because subsequently had a lot of subjective interpretations of his work from literary friends. But in a pure form of his diaries to be published. A small part of them published in the form of doctored to make it easier to read. However, the authors of these revisions state that sought to preserve the author's style to the maximum. I believe them, because strong distortion Munch Museum would not be allowed. I read all these books in English. Fiction - not an easy one. Even in doctored form style complex, and given the depressing content, then read sad. But of course, Munch was from a family of hereditary intelligentsia and wrote beautifully. His grandfather was a prominent Norwegian historian, shifting epics, in the family were artists.



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Старый 29.08.2008, 12:03 Язык оригинала: Русский       #13
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In my collection is a curious work. This Lentulov Aristarchus, early 1910's. Look: the same bridge that Munch, the same expression, but unfortunately people screaming Munch peacefully sitting on the railing next to the village boys.
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Then there is a museum in Bergen, a former trader Rasmus Meyer collection.
Remarkable collection, and the whole museum, too, but practically not protected, at least three years ago it was.



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Старый 07.08.2009, 20:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #15
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Today looking Munch (looking for weapons), and gazed. Weapons not found, but found a 4-killers, two female and two males, and decided that this is reason enough to raise a great story Munch.

The murderer, 1906, 69,5 x100
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The murderer, 1910, 94,5 h154
Killer in the field, 1919, 110h138
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Assassin, 1910, 94,5 h154
But here too there is a corpse? Left?

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This Lentulov Aristarchus, early 1910-s.
Only now I saw this picture. Interesting ...



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But here too there is a corpse? Left?
With the victim in this case, not everything is clear (as I have already explained, I am more interested in the murder weapon), the artist has to believe in the word - he somehow knows exactly what it was a crime or not



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I have already explained, I was more interested in the murder weapon
Knife in hand picking out? : eek:



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And what's case has made him such an impression? Why he returned to this subject?



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Edvard Munch exhibition in Paris Pinakothek
Paris Pinakothek, which gave an unusual exhibition called "Edvard Munch, or Antikrik", decided to acquaint visitors with pictures, written in different periods of the artist's life.

The exhibition opened last Friday in the exhibition room on the Place de la Madeleine. "We want to show the audience another Munch", - said at the opening day of the exhibition Commissioner Dieter Bushhart.

"The picture" Scream ", which exists in several versions, was written by a painter at the moment of despair - like director Mark Pinakothek Restelini. - Munch told how one day during a walk in the sky turned crimson, and thus heard a never-ending cry. However, the overall work of Munch was not as "delusional". He was avant-garde artists, who used in his works, photograph, kinetic elements, and movies.

The exhibition features 175 works by the artist, including about fifty oil paintings and many prints, created in different periods. Most of the exhibits came from private collections in different countries (Mexico, United States, European Union).


Munch's art lovers have a rare opportunity to see his work gathered under one roof. According to Dieter Bushharta, about a quarter of the exhibited works never before shown to the public. In France, the works of Edward Munch's very little (Musée d'Orsay, Pompidou Center).

Munch believed that "everything is permeated with the movement" and that "in a simple stone you can see the fire of life". The exhibition shows the great importance attached to the painter photos.

The last major exhibition of Munch was in 1991 at the Museum d'Orsay, it was called "Munch and France.

Now we are working on the preparation of a new exhibition of the Norwegian artist. It will be devoted to "modern eye" Munch and will open in a Pompidou Center in autumn 2011. There will be exhibited about 70 paintings by Munch, about fifty photographs and films and about 20 graphic works from the Munch Museum and National Gallery in Oslo.

But those who want to admire the famous painting "Scream", you need to go to Oslo. In the museum one of Munch painting back in May of 2008 - four years after it was stolen from the museum.

Another version of "Scream", painted in oil, exhibited at the National Gallery of Oslo. She also was stolen in 1994, but after a few months returned to the museum.

Exhibition Edvard Munch opened on Place de la Madeleine, from 19 February to 18 July 2010.


Le Monde, 23 February 2010
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