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Старый 14.08.2009, 15:07 Язык оригинала: Русский       #11
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artists do not stand up and try after some time (when the ads began to operate, the catalog is made, a personal exhibition held ...) to dictate new terms.
Agree. I tried to work both with some very interesting artists to me, offering to redeem all the work "not looking" to specified conditions. Naturally, only those whose work fell well enough in my tastes. Without limiting the artist in anything, not dictating terms and themes for the paintings. Calculation of the fact that it is impossible to guess what the picture will be better or worse. A statistical sampling of works from the relatively low price for the successful work of slaughter loss on forced purchase failed.

Prices are determined at the normal prices of the same artist, without special discounts, as he delivers on sale in the gallery. Persistently carry out all financial arrangements, despite the crisis and so on. It takes a year, and you start to notice that you have a "second grade", and the number of creations diminished significantly against the promise. And after the expiration of the contract "cool down", since more tightly and with a choice to buy the same artist.



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Старый 14.08.2009, 22:47 Язык оригинала: Русский       #12
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Any imbalance leads to a breakdown in the relationship
Correct! I would have called the theme looks more like - "How to work with the artist's gallery! Since distortions are more often by the artist, then changed his place of residence, then took to drink or anything else.
Of course the most convenient to the artist when he buy a large amount of work, he gladly agrees to make concessions and discounts around the corner with pride about all broadcasts. Remaining moments are very slippery and tend to go downward.



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Старый 15.08.2009, 12:27 Язык оригинала: Русский       #13
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- "How to work with the artist's gallery!
There, in the second part of the topic, I think it is.
And problems can create as one and the other side. And it is not unfortunate, in most cases (if not all) it depends on money. The artist wants it all today and now (money, fame, auctions, rank ....), a gallery, of course, too, is interested in the rapid growth rates of the artist, but the constraint is notorious contractual relationship. And there is a certain logic - one dealer was engaged in "promotion", invested (and not just finance) in the artist, but when "the process has begun," came another, and offers more favorable conditions (the possibility of more ...).
While you can say - such is life ... But, "to cut weight, do not feel like, if zolotishko already in other hands ...
In general, this topic is probably the most relevant for the promotion and development of modern (not in the sense of "contemporary", but in the sense of - "made" our contemporaries) art. And the theory of writing myself - he sell it from despair, from the creation of handicrafts, when the fairs went and sold their products.
And here, I would like to bring a little analogy:
Dealer - artist, agent - an athlete, the theater director - artistic director (here, in the sense that one is also engaged in marketing and management, and the other - creativity )....



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Старый 15.08.2009, 17:18 Язык оригинала: Русский       #14
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I think that the Internet significantly changes the position of the artist in the art market. Can pursue the most markentigovuyu campaign, which he considers necessary to the author himself. I met many artists, especially in large cities, which are deliberately not cooperating with the galleries. Live from the exhibition to exhibition, produce catalogs. I wonder if the artist will continue in such a way to build your marketing, if it helps him in the future?
 
Although I also believe that without the status of galleries do not. For example in many exhibitions independent part of the artist is impossible. It can exhibit their work only on behalf of the gallery. In addition, the gallery shall issue certificates to the buyer with prices, that gives the artist an assessment of his work, even if it is not sold at auction.



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Старый 15.08.2009, 17:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #15
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I have met many artists, especially in large cities, which are deliberately not cooperating with the galleries. Live from the exhibition to exhibition, produce catalogs.
I can not understand how you can make it a show, if not to cooperate with galleries?

This can be done only in the exhibition altogether unsuitable places, though they are very loud voice called. For example, "Exhibition at the State Duma of Russia" or "Horse Rada of Ukraine. But there is not enough people willing to look at the picture - for them will be that the wallpaper, that picture. Can be displayed in shopping malls - if an artist paints a "commodity" for sale mass audience, per residential designers and their clients-glamorous clients.

Serious or complicated for mass taste, the artist exhibited in a place hardly sees fit.

I would venture corrected your sentence: "Many people do not cooperate with a tubes, producing catalogs." How do you think?



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Старый 15.08.2009, 17:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #16
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I think that the Internet significantly changes the position of the artist in the art market. Can pursue the most markentigovuyu company, which he considers necessary to the author himself. I met many artists, especially in large cities, which are deliberately not cooperating with the galleries. Live from the exhibition to exhibition, produce catalogs. I wonder if the artist will continue in such a way to build your marketing, if it helps him in the future?
 
Although I also believe that without the status of galleries do not. For example in many exhibitions independent part of the artist is impossible. It can exhibit their work only on behalf of the gallery. In addition, the gallery shall issue certificates to the buyer with prices, that gives the artist an assessment of his work, even if it is not sold at auction.
Veronique, fully agrees with the first abzatsem.Osobenno, "established", with his recognizable style, hudozhniki.Naprimer, I would have on your site with Arthur certainly try to have at least a little, but your gallery ..
Do not quite understand about the exhibition "only on behalf of the gallery ...
As for the certificates, the artist may himself personally responsible to issue a certificate and an indication of the price ..
, And other attributions .. "myself Gallery

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Many people do not cooperate with a tubes, producing catalogs. "How do you think?
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Vladimir, publishes exhibition catalogs (organizer), which brings together the work of the artist ..



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Старый 15.08.2009, 18:07 Язык оригинала: Русский       #17
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publishes exhibition catalogs (organizer), which brings together the work of the artist ..
In the modern development of printing directory can release the artist himself [even in the home]. Only it will not be called an exhibition catalog, a catalog of works, say, a certain period. I know collectors that produce catalogs of their collections.
Of course, this particular mat. costs, but operating and selling artist can easily afford to publish a catalog circulation of 500-1000 copies., selling from 1 to several paintings. And not necessarily the directory must be super-rich and large. Catalog is very helpful in sales. And the buyer is nice to get a gift such a directory, along with the purchased pattern.



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Старый 15.08.2009, 18:08 Язык оригинала: Русский       #18
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Vladimir, publishes exhibition catalogs (organizer), which brings together the artist's works ..
Not always, often the artists themselves are doing. I mean, if it is personal.



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Старый 15.08.2009, 18:14 Язык оригинала: Русский       #19
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NATA NOVA Let me ask you a question, quite far from the policy?

NATA NOVA, I know that you are using the Internet for sales of his paintings. What you can skate on this subject? Can you really sell art through a network? (Personally I doubt it) What are the problems and pitfalls? What is the main buyer? How to pay and how to send pictures?
What the site most convenient and useful for sales (Russian speakers)?

I would be grateful if the answers will not only NATA NOVA.



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Старый 15.08.2009, 18:29 Язык оригинала: Русский       #20
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Let me ask a question NATA NOVA quite far from the policy?

NATA NOVA, I know that you are using the Internet for sales of his paintings. What you can skate on this subject? Can you really sell art through a network? (Personally I doubt it) What are the problems and pitfalls? What is the main buyer? How to pay and how to send pictures?
What the site most convenient and useful for sales (Russian speakers)?

I would be grateful if the answers will not only NATA NOVA.
Who told you that? I internet is only half as Toda opened ..
  (My main, "in the table" and in my head).
. Unbribable I .. Well quite .. no one even and 50 U.S. dollars does not .. (it is 0.00025%of HERstovoy prices)
Nobody needs! (Unsaleable goods. No brand. No fame.'s Grandfather is not Freud. Artist of the first generation.)
Счас written and thought: îôôòîï!

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Not always, often the artists themselves are doing. I mean, if it is personal.
Why ?.....



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