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Старый 03.07.2009, 07:56 Язык оригинала: Русский       #11
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We have shot a prankster or something worse.
  But it certainly demonstrates the wildness of our manners and civility of the French.
Way, about the French bad Alfredo Koch:
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... France entered the Second World War in 1939. Entered it, but only on paper, since no fighting has led to, and not going. Facing each other French and German troops along the border and only playfully squabbling. So the French interpreted his duty as allies to Poland. Like, we promised Poland to declare war on Germany if she attacked Poland, so we announced it, and. But, in fact, we're not promised to fight! Declare war - please, but vzapravdu fight - this is too much. Are we idiots? Look at what came up - fight! And suddenly killed? Found fools. We here better reds mash, in a foxhole, away from their wives, in the open air ...

And at this time Poland was bleeding in the unequal struggle against Germany and the Soviet Union. I wonder if the Poles knew how to "help" the allies, they would have before the war as well behaved with Hitler and Stalin, or somehow more careful, or what? The Germans struck in the spring of 1940. Within weeks of the French army remained horns and hoofs, and the English expeditionary force had barely time to carry away the legs from Dunkirk, and then only because Hitler gave them time to evacuate. He then played in the nobility. In June the Germans entered Paris, and France capitulated. Northern France joined the Reich, but from the southern erected a puppet state with its capital in Vichy. A handful of officers headed by Charles de Gaulle fled abroad and continued to struggle in the Russian and British armies, and most of the officers and men took off their uniforms and military quietly, dressed in plain clothes, have continued to engage in what were engaged before the war: to sow grain, work in factories , trade ...

In Paris, continued to operate theaters and restaurants, a French began to flirt with the German soldiers and French factories without interruption produced military equipment, only now for the Wehrmacht. In the port of Le Havre was the German fleet, of Normandy, the departure of German U-boat wreck the British transport convoys, including on the way to Murmansk and Arkhangelsk. All the French economy, and industry, and agriculture working for Hitler. The French are not particularly kompleksovat about the fact that they are working on the enemy. And what can you do, the war is lost ... Once our French state was so bad that lost the war, it means it serves him right. This does not rise to risk his head. All French cultural figures suffered terribly during the German occupation. They would not climb into the throat croissant, they davilis coffee with cream. Here's how suffered the insulted honor of the motherland. And in the evenings out and sang and danced for the German officers. And Edith Piaf and Maurice Chevalier. Only Jean Gabin wore American uniforms and honestly fought with the enemy. And the rest somehow managed without it. They had a purely spiritual protest. And Jean-Paul Sartre, and all the others ...

The Germans were evacuated from northern France, all Jews in concentration camps. Vichy asked them: what to do with the Jews to us? And do whatever you want - told them dirty Boches. We then send them to northern France, - answered the proud Gauls, and sent their Jews to certain death. Even General Franco has not expelled its Jews, but rather took the Spanish refugees from Vichy and the French - no. Not Rakovsky people of French Jews to save them. Oh and if they own France did not protect, then even more so they will not take risks because of some Jews.

No, of course, France was anti-Nazi underground, so-called "Maquis", but the underground was everywhere, even in Germany, I am not talking about Italy. Yet this underground did not play the significant role it retroactively attributed postwar historiography. Maybe France could defend. For this it was necessary to stabilize the front at any cost, to all-out mobilization, massive requisition, launch a guerrilla war in the enemy rear. Another had to start terror against its own population - the defeatists, deserters, pacifists simply. This meant that to win requires enormous sacrifices. Millions and millions of people have been killed. But they survived, they have children, and then came the grandchildren. Now, when we go to France, we find these old people. Starikov, whose lives have not been paid for the victory. Or otherwise - a defeat, it was the price that France paid for their life ...
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Дядя Макс.



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Старый 03.07.2009, 10:49 Язык оригинала: Русский       #12
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Cyril Syzransky, No, I did not write a receipt. They were waiting to receive the money and prepared shift pattern. I do not remember the details. But a very similar situation.



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Старый 03.07.2009, 11:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #13
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They were waiting to receive money and prepared shift pattern.
Well, it's rude, not "aesthetic" ... : D
With a receipt, where the buyer wrote "I bought a fake and pritenzy the seller does not have a" funny and elegant.
As in the white pants in the Rio da Janeiro! Or in Sochi! : D



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Старый 03.07.2009, 11:02 Язык оригинала: Русский       #14
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Speaking of the French
They are rotten, and now Islamized to the same ...



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Старый 03.07.2009, 13:27 Язык оригинала: Русский       #15
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but I liked it)) beautiful! ))))
And I did not like. Freak.

[color="# 666686"]Added after 13 minutes[/color]
Although, of course,
Maybe he and his "pulled" - "the smartest" millionaire ...



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Старый 03.07.2009, 13:44 Язык оригинала: Русский       #16
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Imagine how to get a man?

And on the fakes is possible and quite honestly earn. I then stumbled upon a site which sells lithographs Elmira de Hori, famous poddelschika which Orson Welles shot the feature film "Fake" http://www.lca-moscow.ru/art/elmy/elmy.htm

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By the way, about the French bad Alfredo Koch:
Bad. Pluses and minuses are for each and all, you can not look in a distorting mirror. Before anyone should try to judge that the situation for himself and answer himself (himself, because that public response is not honest), what would you have chosen to live or die?



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Старый 03.07.2009, 16:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #17
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Millions and millions of people have been killed. But they survived, they have children, and then came the grandchildren. Now, when we go to France, we find these old people. Starikov, whose lives have not been paid for the victory. Or otherwise - a defeat, it was the price that France paid for their lives ...
In my last sentence is completely neutral, without a conviction.



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Старый 03.07.2009, 17:35 Язык оригинала: Русский       #18
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gorelov,

The Allies did not actively assist Poland, not because they were afraid, but because of the attack on Poland, Czechoslovakia in 1938 and the seizure of Cieszyn area.



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Старый 04.07.2009, 16:49 Язык оригинала: Русский       #19
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No such avaricious millionaires do not feel sorry for accidentally saw a "miracle" as a proudly told that the bargained couple cents on a pair of socks in an expensive store, his heart and soul exhausted staff, as they say "every day is not Shrovetide, and a fast day



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no such avaricious millionaires do not feel sorry,
I agree with you.



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