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Старый 17.05.2009, 12:28 Язык оригинала: Русский       #11
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I really do not remember a single post where you identified their preferences in art.
And is not it Herr Doktor somewhere writing avidly on the "art masterpiece" of Soviet times, citing the example of "fascist flying?



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Старый 17.05.2009, 15:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #12
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With all due respect to you, so on Yerofeeva write nelzya.Eto talented person, good luck to him.
Eugene, your opinion is significant for me, but I want to argue:

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«This is certainly a very important mission for the liberation of art consciousness when man learns to look at things critically, work is a constructive confrontation, to have separate the culture and thinking people from the government» ( A. Erofeev)
Everything is logical. Man try to "separate the culture and thinking people of power" and of trying to isolate him from society. Everyone has their own problems. But, if even called himself a rebel, so no need to become a woman ...

And, even talented prohibitively bonhomie on religious values, whatever they may be.

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Старый 17.05.2009, 15:33 Язык оригинала: Русский       #13
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bonhomie
  And what is it?



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Старый 17.05.2009, 15:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #14
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Can Erofeich to chemistry to send a couple of one year old, and in "modern art" of patriots and simply become more healthy, and degenerates - less? In the meantime, rubbing Andrew in "Solidarity"
With all due respect to you, so on Yerofeeva write nelzya.Eto talented person, good luck to him.
Eugene and any other person can not write.



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Старый 17.05.2009, 15:39 Язык оригинала: Русский       #15
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In the public space has to keep a blow
For the public space in your thesis is valid, but I have absolutely no motivation to keep the impact of the local "public" ...

But seriously, educated and discreet LCR have groped one of my "vulnerabilities". I was blushing from ear to ear

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I really do not remember a single post where you identified their preferences in art.

And is not it Herr Doktor somewhere writing avidly on the "art masterpiece" of Soviet times, citing the example of "fascist flying?



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Старый 17.05.2009, 15:40 Язык оригинала: Русский       #16
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And what is it?
This is when s becomes koshonom ...



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Старый 17.05.2009, 16:03 Язык оригинала: Русский       #17
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This is when s becomes koshonom ...
Now understand. Next time register as "Nedogonova": D



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Старый 28.05.2009, 11:31 Язык оригинала: Русский       #18
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По умолчанию Erofeev pobodatsya agreed with the authorities

Insolent, after all, this Erofeev. The Committee has established, "culture" is going to defend. Looks all that, as a farce:

http://lenta.ru/news/2009/05/27/defenders/

Podelnichek it Samodurov, at press conferences "stars", Kimych energetically promoting it with pravozaschitnichkami:

http://www.kasparov.ru/material.php?id=4A1D16BA41873

No, it's better to train to close Erofeev. Saucy very. And about Samodurov, that and the question does not arise.

The trial is tomorrow, we'll see ... : confused:



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Старый 13.09.2009, 10:47 Язык оригинала: Русский       #19
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По умолчанию The trial Samodurova-Erofeev: witnesses gave contradicting evidence.

At a trial in the case of the exhibition "Forbidden Art - 2006" has begun questioning witnesses. According Kasparov.Ru, on Friday in Tagansky district court of Moscow has given witness testimony Sofia Sokolova.

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Sofia Sokolova
witness for the prosecution

In a country where top officials attend religious services in Orthodox churches, such exhibitions should not be.
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By her own admission, she was not at the exhibition, but says she saw "triable" pictures on the Internet. At the same time during the interrogation of almost any work presented at the exhibition, Sokolov could not remember and described mostly paintings from the exhibition "Caution, Religion", held in 2003. This exhibition then also became an occasion for the trial, which was also attended by Sokolov.

In response to clarifying the issue of protecting the witness said, as if viewed with "Forbidden Art" at Sakharov Center. Meanwhile, the alleged former director of the Sakharov Museum, Yuri Samodurov, work on the site of the museum had never been published for reasons of principle.

Kasparov.Ru also notes that the text of the statement that Sokolov asked the prosecutor, and who, she says, wrote his own, almost word for word the same as the text of the statements of other witnesses. To explain this coincidence Sokolova could not.

The former director of the Sakharov Museum Yuri Samodurov and exhibition curator Viktor Erofeev charged under paragraph b of part 2 of article 282 of the Criminal Code ( "Incitement to hatred and enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity in an official capacity").

The structure of the exhibition "Forbidden Art" was composed of a number of contemporary Russian artists, who in 2006 proposed by the curators for exhibitions in Moscow exhibition halls and not allowed to show artistic council or directors.
11.09.2009 17:37

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Address of culture to the president in support of the organizers of the exhibition "Forbidden Art - 2006"

Mr. President

We are writing to you as foreign artists and writers to express our deep concern over the criminal prosecution of Andrei Erofeev, art critic and former director of the newest trends of the Tretyakov Gallery, and Yuri Samodurov, former director of the Andrei Sakharov Museum in connection with the organization of exhibition "Forbidden Art 2006".
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As you probably know, the exposure brought together a number of art works, which were not taken to be shown at other exhibitions in 2006. However, some exhibits, including the work of several well-known Russian artists, namely, Ilya Kabakov, Alexander Kosolapov, Alexander Savko and Mikhail Roginsky, have been exhibited both in Russia and abroad in exhibitions of contemporary art. We understand that the exhibition was intended to cause a public debate on the censorship of such works.

We are concerned and dismayed that the prosecution of these individuals demonstrates the disregard for freedom of expression guaranteed by the Constitution. The provisions of international law, human rights do not permit, much less do not require a limit or repress freedom of expression on the sole ground that a certain group of people may find offensive, such manifestations. Russia - a secular state whose laws guarantee all its citizens freedom of religious belief or rejection of the practice of religion, where everyone has the right to choose, profess and propagate any religious or atheistic beliefs. International law does not allow restrictions on freedom of expression and opinion, do not coincide with the religious beliefs of the majority or religion, which protects the state.

We find it hard to believe that an art exhibition can incite hatred. Despite the fact that some visitors might deem offensive, some exhibits, this fact does not say that these works arouse hatred or are intended to offend the religious feelings of some of the believers. Contemporary art - an inherent manifestation of modern culture, which serves as a better understanding of the modern world in general.

Art provides a platform for the free expression of different opinions. Art, no doubt, be of a provocative character. Freedom of creativity and freedom of the creator - an integral part of freedom of expression and, moreover, the rate of reliably indicating the degree of freedom of society as a whole.

We are absolutely confident that Andrei Erofeev and Yuri Samodurov should not be subjected to persecution, and urge Russia's authorities to respect their right to freedom of expression.

Best regards,

Galia Ackerman, a journalist, essayist, France;

Igor Golmoshtok, art, United Kingdom;

Boris Groys, professor, art historian, Germany;

Arnon Grunberg, writer, Netherlands;

Roddy Doyle, writer, Ireland;

Ilya and Emilia Kabakov, artist, USA;

Julia Kissin, artist, Ukraine;

Jukka Mullin, writer, translator, President of the Finnish PEN (2006-2009), Finland;

Azar Nafisi, scientist, writer, Iran;

Jussi K. Niemelä, editor, philosopher, Finland;

David shelves, president of the European Humanist Federation, United Kingdom;

Peter Cees, writer, painter, illustrator, Czech Republic;

Tom Stoppard, playwright, United Kingdom;

Ulitskaya, writer, Russia;

Enrique Hunkoza, director of the Irish Museum of Modern Art, Ireland.

24.07.2009



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Старый 13.09.2009, 11:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #20
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somewhere wrote avidly on the "art masterpiece" of Soviet times, citing the example of "fascist flying"?
And since when in Paris, the Nazis began to read flown to respond because of the picture or is your individual opinion?



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