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nikola · 21.04.2009, 05:56

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and therefore need to poke a needle in belilnye load.

Why not ask who did not show the work? Maybe there and "poke" is not necessary.
In general, council with a needle is not serious. If there ever was a fact of experience, then this kind of problem can be solved visually. And if not, then at least shut up still remain in doubt.

uriart · 21.04.2009, 07:22

Although plenty bake in the oven, the paint is still so dry. And craquelure from the furnace is very different from the old normal cracelures.

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Сообщение от nikola

Why not ask who did not show work? Maybe there and "poke" is not necessarily.

course I would like to see the work in question. But this deal with the owner.
And with a needle, the so-called eksperss method, we can say in field conditions.

Art Consulting · 21.04.2009, 08:45

FAIv,
As far as I know, an effective way. Time of occurrence cracelures (as a consequence of drying) about 40 years. First of all, it appears, under natural conditions, the paste-like belilnyh layers. Restoration and washing usually does not lead to a softening of the paste-like sites. Drying and artificial breaking of the picturesque layer is always visible. Cracelures does not appear in those places and different from the natural in its texture. That if znatocheskimi methods to detect. Chemistry, naturally defines more precisely.
And be careful, you first should try a thin layer in an inconspicuous place, if you try kovyrnut pasty layer on the old job or get a thick layer of varnish, it can cause serious damage to the work.

ФАИв · 21.04.2009, 10:47

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Why not ask who did not show work?

Well, there are still some things ... You can, of course, have their own doubts, but to take and zafakapit someone else's work? Who do you take me for?: Confused:: confused:: confused:

олег назаров · 11.05.2009, 23:33

the degree of drying oils envy primarily from the oil (svyazueschego), the second of the pigment (some are sikativami pigment such as umber of promptness with lead whiting) ability to make some things I popadlis 20 30godov where they were pasty smear melkodispestnymi lands (such as volkonskoita) since oil was soft after 80 years! and vice versa, I saw the paste-like paintings that crackled through the 15 years after writing .... the most reliable way to determine the time of job now is isotopic analysis!

Кирилл Сызранский · 11.05.2009, 23:40

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Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

the most reliable way to determine the time of job now is isotopic analysis!

I can see a man from St. Petersburg.

олег назаров · 12.05.2009, 00:34

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I can see a man from St. Petersburg.

and that I said this peterbuzhskogo ???:

Кирилл Сызранский · 12.05.2009, 01:16

Oleg Nazarov, here it is:

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Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

the most reliable way to determine the time of job now is isotopic analysis!

This is St. Petersburg's fashion. Your Mrs. B Dr promotes this method. Tries, shall we say, to promote.

Евгений · 12.05.2009, 06:55

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the most reliable way to determine the time of job now is isotopic analysis!

And how much? Just wondering.

Кирилл Сызранский · 12.05.2009, 07:12

That's here about this method:
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=22765
Here:
http://artinvestment.ru/news/artnews...forgeries.html.

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21.04.2009, 08:45	Язык оригинала: Русский #13
Art Consulting Местный Регистрация: 23.09.2008 Сообщений: 163 Спасибо: 70 Поблагодарили 187 раз(а) в 69 сообщениях Репутация: 679	FAIv, As far as I know, an effective way. Time of occurrence cracelures (as a consequence of drying) about 40 years. First of all, it appears, under natural conditions, the paste-like belilnyh layers. Restoration and washing usually does not lead to a softening of the paste-like sites. Drying and artificial breaking of the picturesque layer is always visible. Cracelures does not appear in those places and different from the natural in its texture. That if znatocheskimi methods to detect. Chemistry, naturally defines more precisely. And be careful, you first should try a thin layer in an inconspicuous place, if you try kovyrnut pasty layer on the old job or get a thick layer of varnish, it can cause serious damage to the work.

11.05.2009, 23:33	Язык оригинала: Русский #15
олег назаров Гуру Регистрация: 29.04.2009 Адрес: Санкт-Петербург Сообщений: 1,161 Спасибо: 3,614 Поблагодарили 2,528 раз(а) в 734 сообщениях Репутация: 4798	the degree of drying oils envy primarily from the oil (svyazueschego), the second of the pigment (some are sikativami pigment such as umber of promptness with lead whiting) ability to make some things I popadlis 20 30godov where they were pasty smear melkodispestnymi lands (such as volkonskoita) since oil was soft after 80 years! and vice versa, I saw the paste-like paintings that crackled through the 15 years after writing .... the most reliable way to determine the time of job now is isotopic analysis!

12.05.2009, 07:12	Язык оригинала: Русский #20
Кирилл Сызранский Гуру Регистрация: 26.07.2008 Адрес: РФ, Самара Сообщений: 75,466 Спасибо: 27,924 Поблагодарили 55,361 раз(а) в 24,302 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 133 Репутация: 102421	That's here about this method: http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=22765 Here: http://artinvestment.ru/news/artnews...forgeries.html.