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Old 31-03-2014, 14:41 Original language: Russian        #1
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The author missed the most important piece of advice - before collecting , you should decide what exactly interested in what is available to explore as deeply as possible collectible explore risks ie to acquire the necessary knowledge base . Analysis of acquired experience in the process of collecting is also very important . That's when you can take the advice of
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Trust your eyes , taste, and the first impression .
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- do not make a purchase in case of doubt .
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the most basic tips for beginning collectors gives the author ....
Tata, I am very familiar with this text.
You could not give an exact reference?
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Vladimir I also seemed very familiar article, including her style.
Are not you the author .... I'm sorry if wrong.
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http://professionali.ru/Soobschestva...ollekcionerov/

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I think I understand that the author had in mind article when talking about the first impression - it is often the best (of course if you have experience ) and they should be cherished. If you long to learn imitation , sometimes it begins to seem that it is not without some merit. Once you start to think - that the work of the late , weak .... ask little in general to seek justification in favor of suspicious inevitably become hostage to the situation and the eyes no longer see the obvious errors .
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Vladimir I, too, seemed very familiar article, including her style.
Are not you the author .... I'm sorry if wrong.
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No acetate,

Vladimir-author's of this article, published back in2008

http://artinvestment.ru/invest/ideas...410_howto.html



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Yes plagiarism!
Just do not understand, good or bad, that the mutilated statue was placed?
Thought - article useful, even in abbreviated form.
<! - ~ 3 ~ ->, though it's 5 years old - is still relevant.
It turned out that distribute fake.

I'm reading the script when it is thoroughly and rusty.
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though it's 5 years old - is still relevant. It turned out that distribute fake
Come on, people forgot to put a link - sometimes. No drama . Spread we only welcome . Especially with reference to the source. There are cases when appends from himself and inserted illustrate their artists. That is much worse <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
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Vladimir-author ...
So you write it?
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Another interesting article about collecting art .

" With the kind permission of the author personal , one of the leading experts on the evaluation of contemporary art, Alan Bamberger (Alan Bamberger), offer you a chapter from his new book " BUY ART WORKS OF ART ", recently appeared for sale in SShA.Sayt website http://www.artbusiness.com
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How do I buy and collect works of art
Note . This lecture delivered before an audience of collectors in the Indianapolis Art Center . It covers topics covered in detail my book "The Art of buying a work of art ." Any interested person is able to buy and collect art . Saying "any" I do mean everyone who wants to practice collecting. You do not need to have any prior knowledge or experience of a large , much more special education or academic degrees . All that is needed now collector 's love for art, a passion for collecting and willingness to learn a few simple principles that will properly assess any work of art , dating back to any historical period , belonging to any national culture. And, although this lecture contains specific recommendations for collecting , however , be aware that there is no art "false" and "true" , as well as there is no "right" and "wrong" ways of collecting. Simply put, you can collect and buy everything like that, just based on personal taste and the basis of their financial capabilities . Consequently, the proposed guidelines are addressed to me only to collectors who would like to spend their money wisely and choose to invest in their works of art, the quality of which corresponds to their price. If you consider yourself to this type of collectors , my recommendations will help you definitely .
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Suppose before you work , offered for sale , which you love . It can be a picture , sculpture , impression - it does not matter . If you like your work so that you are ready to buy , be prepared to answer some questions before making a final decision. These questions are the following : * Who artist? * What is the significance of a particular work of art for the artist ? * What are the origins , history , biography things ( in other words, when and where work was exhibited , belonged to whom and when ) ? * How reasonable price ? To answer the first question "Who are the artist ? " should always be based on two main sources of information - oral and pismennyy.Ustnym source of information may be the artist himself or direct seller of - gallery , dealer , owner of the work, just friends or acquaintances . Verbal information can come from other collectors or just from people who are familiar with the work hudozhnika.Chto regards written information , it should look at the website of the artist or gallery representing him. You can search the Internet and other sources, exhibition catalogs , in summary, the artist, reviews, publications , monographs , encyclopedias and dictionaries . Most often written information also provides the seller or diler.V anyway and have read about the artist, and listen to the opinions of knowledgeable people . Compare and contrast all the information gathered , you can make the right choice and make your own opinion about the significance of the artist you are interested . The information that you need to collect , should contain the following facts : * Date of birth and, if the artist is dead , date of death of the artist. * Where the artist lives and works. * Where, when and from whom the artist studied . * Organization, which the artist is . * Galleries , museums and other institutions in which the artist exhibited . * Diplomas , awards , grants , awards , which the artist received . * Public, private and corporate collections, which are works of the artist. * Items which the artist worked or takes (teacher , teacher, lecturer , writer , etc.). * Publications which mention the name of the artist, such as books , articles, katalogi.Prednaznachenie all this information is very simple - to make a correct opinion about the artist. Nothing to do with the academic study of his work in this. You only need to understand for themselves who the artist is and what his or her achievements. Value skills gather the necessary information increases with increasing prices , you're interested in art . Simply put, the more work , the more respected the established and proven to be its avtor.Stali would you, for example , to buy a car for $ 25,000 , without asking a single question ? Imagine buying a home price of $ 300,000 , after inspection of house facade alone . Without a doubt , you would have learned everything about the car and the house . You do not want to pay for some unknown reason . Approach to buying art should be exactly the same . The whole process must begin with the fact , that a general view of the artist on the basis of the above information . * The wider the artist presented on its website and in any other Internet resources , the better. Yes, the internet site of the artist is important. However, much more important sites where you can find reviews , reviews and articles relating to your artist . It is also important information from websites and galleries, exhibits and sells his work. Other valuable sources include websites of museums and art editions . * The more catalogs and books you will find references to the name of the artist , the better. * The more notable are the publications and Internet sources that mention the name of the artist , the more significant and well-known artist , he probably is . Five paragraphs in the famous international catalog or dictionary means more than an article of the same size in a local publication or artistic directory. * The longer the artist worked and created his works , the better , and age by itself is not always an artist index . So , working 55 year old artist with 30 years experience of successful work quoted above of 55 year old artist , who organized a second exhibition of his life . * The more the number of exhibitions , awards and other achievements of the artist's career , the better. Note that pompous , bombastic and chaotic epithets against the artist, such as "magic touches " or " brilliant color combination " may sound inspiring , but most often , such a " flowery " language exaggerations can have no weight unless information not confirmed at least some facts. * The more significant collections, which you can find works by the artist , the more likelihood of a significant artist. When the museum acquired the artist's work - it's always a good sign. Large corporate collections always raise the reputation of the artist. With regard to private collections , the prized only known and proven collection. For example , the picture , which is in the collection of Countess Esmeralda Stegoviyskoy can impress only if the Countess is known for its collection and is a true connoisseur of art. * Lists of artists in elite erudite journals. * The more people who know the artist, speak well of him , better. The more qualified and respected by these people in artistic circles , the more you can trust them, especially if they are not financially interested in selling works of hudozhnika.Otvet the second question - how significant a particular work of art for the artist ? - You can get as much as possible by reviewing the work of the artist. The better you know the artist's work the easier it will be to compare the thing that caught your attention with the works typical of this artist's works, which are the best way to characterize ego.Nachnite that ask the artist or person who sells his work to show you sample works of artist from all periods of his work - be it photos , Internet page, or reproductions of the originals. If this is not possible , try to figure out where and how you can get acquainted with a number of works of the artist you are interested . Knowledge of the full range of the artist's works will allow you to better understand the place that takes in his work you selected item . That is why art galleries organize solo exhibitions and collected numerous art collections of one artist that they represent . The more work gallery able to show you the more information you can get about hudozhnike.Sleduyuschee , attentively examine the thing that drew your attention. Except for the front side of the picture , please read also its downside , check the sidewall and edge , check the condition of the sub-frame , make sure the caption below the picture , look for a label on its reverse side . You can also find print , new receipts, numbers, etc. Ask the seller or the artist you explain the origin of all detected you detaley.Vse listed not only informative and interesting , but also is able to give you more information about the product , as well as about how knowledgeable person selling ego.Sprosite artist or seller - whether a thing is an original or a reproduction. This question is very important , especially when it comes to limited edition reproductions (limited edition prints). Many so-called " works of art ", published in limited edition , do not differ from ordinary photographic reproductions and digital images that are not created by the artist that puts his signature works , and digital printers and publishing companies . Believe it or not, most signed and numbered serigraphs , lithographs, digital images, such as giclee , falls into this category . The only thing that truly these copies - is a signature set by the artist vruchnuyu.Nekotorye publishers adjusted production reproductions to absurdity. Publisher New Erte, for example, continues to produce copies of copyright even many years after the author's death. Well , it's certainly a sign of the greatness of the artist , the master continues to "create" , even after his own death . So remember - when you look at the exclusive author copies , always ask what it is, an original or copy , and request a written response . If you like a picture of you and no matter what it is - the original or a reproduction - then buy it. But if you purposefully collect originals , buy only those works that were completely from start to finish created by the author himself . Reproductions of the originals , no matter how well they performed and how they released a limited edition , are among the least valuable and least interesting for collectors rabot.Ubedivshis that the work of art you are interested in , is the script , find out how important the thing in the artist in comparison to his other works. Is it closer to the more labor-intensive , bright, visible and complicated his work , or that a five-minute sketch made ​​by the artist on a piece of cardboard the size of three to five ? Remember that the important and significant work in the artist is always more highly valued and more interesting for collectors . Such work eventually rise in price more than minor raboty.Opredelite whether the thing you like, "typical" or " atypical " for a particular artist. Ask the seller what the artist or theme, size, material and style more typical of this artist and his work which are more popular among the buyers and collectors. That such works are more typical of the artist you are interested . However, any artist also experimenting , as it goes with beaten track and creates unusual , unusual and atypical work for yourself . Thus creating individual works , which can be difficult to recognize the artist. To his experiment artist and may never return. Such work is called atypical . Is preferable to collect the typical work of the artist , of course if you are not a dedicated collector , whose goal is to collect all that the artist has created . And even in the latter case, it is still best to start with the typical work of collecting and unusual and stand out from the general art work naposledok.Sprosite leave period to which the artist belongs interest you work . All artists go through the creative phase , when they work more or less successful , fun, inspired , and therefore attractive to collectors. Experienced collectors , of course, prefer to buy the best works of the most productive periods of creativity. Be sure to find out what period of creativity was more productive you are interested in the artist, and as a work of art you are interested in , correlates with periods of creative enthusiasm hudozhnika.Na more sophisticated level it is recommended to determine whether you are interested in looks unique product , whether it is different or originality is obvious repetition someone else's style , one's ideas or repeating themes encountered this artist of the year in god.Nekotorye artists specialize in variations of the same theme that they have worked with over the years and continue to repeat and repeat just because people like it and things are selling well . For example, was a painter who was presented as a " living artists writing as dead ." In other words, he emphasized the fact that he writes as well as artists painted desyateletiya or even centuries ago. This actually means that you will not find anything original and really interesting in his tvorchestve.S collector standpoint , the artist's work , characterized by originality and uniqueness are more desirable and worthy of collecting than the work of imitators who borrow too much from other styles , eras and other artists. However, if you prefer good copies of famous paintings or you like some style known in the past , do not hesitate to start collecting what you really like. No art right and wrong. Your collection should first of all bring you udovolstvie.Nakonets , make sure that the work you are interested in , is in good condition and is made from durable material for a long time . I was once in the gallery that exhibited artist who painted in oil on the back side of the glass . The pictures were great, but how they were strong and durable ? I asked the dealer to show me some work on the back side so as to see how the scope of protected glass and paint applied thereto . I would not want to spend about five thousand dollars to buy a painting , then to a random shot tipped off a piece or develop a crack in the glass , which was not sufficiently zaschischeno.Dlya answer to the third question - what is the origin ( provenance ) of a work of art, its history and documentation ? - Collect and map all available information about a particular product . This work is akin to that being done by the writer , gathering information before writing someone's biography. Have to collect all available information from the moment when the artist finished work on the movie , and ending today dnem.Etim should be addressed as fully documented painting or any other work of art , collector's value increases and the demand for her work in the market. Good provenance of the art world is like a good pedigree of dog handlers . The painting, which was exhibited at the famous exhibition halls , for example, has a high collection value than similar work , which has not participated in the exhibitions . Sculpture , which won a prize at the exhibition will be more desirable than the sculpture, which never took no prizes not . Watercolor, said in the news column is a greater interest than similar watercolor, not attracted anyone's attention was . If a work of art , which you gather information , possesses some of the qualities listed above , you should know about nih.Nachnite a request made by the artist or the seller to tell you everything he knows about this stuff . Read all her "biography" . Find out where she had been , what or whom it represents, how it was created , who owned it before, whether it has participated in exhibitions , whether it took the prizes , whether the work is mentioned in any publication or publication catalog , review, discussed Does this work on the Internet blogs or forums, or experts in the print edition , or may be by the artist on his website ? Does the work of any event in the life of society, or in the life of the artist ? Are there any funny stories associated with it ? These are all questions that you should ask before buying . Answers are often instructive and razvlekatelny.Esli artwork created by living artists , contact him and ask him to tell you a bit about how you liked the work was created . If the work is sold gallery or dealer to arrange a phone call and talk with the artist at least telefonu.V addition to what you said and told , gather as much documentation online prints statements and clippings from publications in the periodical press . Include in this list copies or photocopies of periodical print or online sources that mention a work of art . Require a certificate attesting the authenticity of the work , and if possible, signed by the artist or dealer , and both of them better , documents confirming all the information you received before orally. It's as if your purchase - this is a picture of you and all the collected documentation on it - is it documented oprava.Vsegda try to separate reality from fictional stories . Gossip, stories told by a third party with someone else's words and other such information can not be classified as significant . Make sure that everything that was told to you , untrue. If you are unable to obtain conclusive evidence of all information , then do not take it at face monetu.Predpolozhim you are thinking about buying an old painting , which depicts a mountain. Dealer tells you that once owned the painting itself plumber grandfather Teddy Roosevelt. He also insists that this mountain called Shasta and evidence shows you pictures taken approximately from the same place it was drawing artist. So, the first statement - this hunch that requires evidence, and the second statement - this is a proven fourth fakt.Teper most serious question - how much is reasonable price ? It's not so much a question of how much the picture will be worth in the future and how profitable such an investment - this you will , by and large , do not tell anybody. The only question is how much a picture is worth today? And this is a question that should be asked and discussed in the first place , since the prices of works of art , as well as any other goods and services , often unreasonably zavyshennymi.Hudozhnik or dealer will most likely tell you that the price of a particular work of art is unique, as and the work itself , and the thing that attracted your attention fully appreciated , however, this logic is not able to convince more or less experienced collector . Every work of art , as well as real estate, for example , of course, unique, but you can always find comparable and similar instances. These similar instances - as well as similar apartments , for example, are in the same area - need adequate assessment and quite amenable to comparison , although on their unique sebe.Vopreki popular belief, prices for art is not taken from the ceiling and are not determined using sixth sense , which has only the dealer or the artist himself . In most cases, to evaluate the work of art is as easy as a measure cup flour , of course, if you are familiar with the basic tenets of the appraiser . All you need is a little comparison , drawing parallels between the work which you are interested and like her works have sold relatively nedavno.Konechno same , for this you need to have access to public information on sales . Most people do not even suspect that such information is available , accessible, legal and examine the history of sales. Similar records not only exist , they exist in a huge variety of legal and available sources. Much of this information can be found online , online databases , publications and catalogs, directories of auctions and public sales. For example, an art dealer catalogs annually publishes detailed information on more than 200,000 sales. Sales records can be found in most specialized libraries , the Internet, specialized bookstores , and in any self-respecting galeree.Nachnite study prices from the artist himself or direct seller paintings . Ask to see record sales last work that interests you master. Make sure that the artist is selling similar work on similar price. Most dealers have such information and are happy to share it with you ( stubborn unwillingness to discuss previous sales should alert ) . Next part of the evaluation of works of art is to know what is happening outside the walls of the gallery or artist's studio. Where else sold works by this artist , and at what price ? We can talk about other galleries about auctions of small online sites specializing in the sale of art objects . You should compare all the prices for the work you're interested in the artist , wherever and by whomever prodavalis.Proverit record auction sales is very easy , with this task , each able to handle . All you have to do - is to consult online databases on prices for the work you're interested in the master ( in fairness it should be noted that this information is only available by subscription ) . Each record of the sale will provide you with information about what type of work was sold ( painting , sculpture , etc.) , how big was the work when and where it was sold , and most importantly - for what an artist has tsene.Esli history of auction sales, then it usually means that the artist has already reached a certain level of recognition and respect in art circles that his work there is a demand and that the sales turnover reached a decent level . That is, instead of asking , " Who is it? " Collectors are already saying , "I know who it is. Her work has sold at auction for such a price and I'm willing to pay for this work so much . " Most informative for you will auction records describing works of art, such as the one product that you are going to buy ; are due to size, material , etc. Please note that auction prices reflect the wholesale price rather than retail that is, be prepared for the fact that the price of the gallery will be slightly higher than the auction - it is quite natural . However, make sure that the auction price is at least 40 %of the gallery . If the bid price is 30%of the gallery , or even less , it is a chance to, to think about. In this situation, either the artist or the dealer is able to give you a convincing explanation for this phenomenon , or you better not to have them dela.Nizhe provides some additional tips for the evaluation and treatment of the auction information. * Review the records ( records ) for at least the last five years and note how changing prices of artist you are interested in this period of time. Gradual increase in prices indicates that the demand for the artist's work among collectors grew continuously over the past five years. Vacillating , unstable walking on the decline rates are likely to be a bad sign . * Pay particular attention to the extent to which most of the price ranges . Ignore the random deviations from the basic range . For example, if you intend to pay for the painting of $ 10,000 and you have found in the auction records one sale for $ 6000 and twenty sales for $ 2,000 , then be on the alert. This information is accurate indicator of what the price of the canvas, which you wish to purchase , greatly exaggerated . * The more you find auction records , the more accurate the results will be on the analysis of prices for the artist you are interested . Based on one or two separate sales can not make any conclusions for reliable analysis, you need at least five or ten best records prodazhah.Informatsiya of retailers and other online galleries or the very real no less important than the information about the auction sale . If auction sales or no information about them is not available to you , the information about the gallery's sales your only source of reliable information . About the gallery can be found on the sales dealers, collectors , from knowledgeable people in artistic circles . The more dealers familiar with the name of the artist , representing his or wishing to submit , you will find , the better. And of course prices in other galleries on the work you're interested in the artist should be comparable to the price you want to pay . If galleries interested in the works of an artist or familiar with his or her name is very little , or no , it is clear that this is a bad record priznak.Nayti auction or gallery - representatives can be almost impossible if you are buying directly from the artist's work , which is not exhibited regularly. In this case, ask the artist to give you information about individuals and organizations that own his work , and again , make every effort to make sure that work is regularly sold and comparable to your cost prices. The more you find collectors, owning works by the artist , and the pricing was more consistent , more confident can make your pokupku.V cases where you can not trace any of the gallery or auction sales records , do some studying prices for similar works by other artists from the same geographical region , working in the same style and reached approximately the same results , and that you are interested in the artist . This is another form of work on necessary before any purchase comparative analysis of prices. When you buy from the artist , then try to find out at what price to sell their work by other artists who live nearby. Suppose you buy landscape, dated 1940 . Certainly compare the price of this landscape with the prices of similar landscapes of the same period , created by artists from the same regiona.Kogda you are ready to make a purchase, make sure that you will be given a receipt containing a detailed description of the purchased works of art and the state in which it is located and , certainly , money back guarantee in case you later find that the work was brought to you correctly. This receipt should be a necessary component of all the relevant documentation , which the dealer is making a product iskusstva.Neskolko words about discounts . Suppose , after all this work you are still interested in buying , but still you would like to pay more than the asking price . Prices for art is often quite flexible , but not worth the bargain just. Ask for a discount only if can justify its request , explain your offer based on the data you collected . Experienced collectors regularly use this technique . They know that the dealers and artists would rather pull the price when you argue conclusively Condition of its request for a discount , than when you try to pull the price just a little bit of desire potorgovatsya.Ves process may seem exhausting . Indeed, why make all of these efforts in order to purchase only one picture? But in practice, many collectors it is in preliminary studies, see the charm of collecting. Fascination prior buying process is similar to a kind of adventure , especially when this skill becomes the second nature of the collector. From the moment you begin to understand all the inner workings of the process , a thirst for knowledge and passion for the hunter will make you purchase the works of art in a fascinating detective work . Seasoned collector , what , sooner or later you will become able to assess and classify most of the work for kakih-nibud twenty, twenty- five minutes. For the experienced collector possession of all available information, including the correct assessment of a work of art can never be an afterthought .



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Too interesting article ...
Interesting article , undoubtedly .
But there are two drawbacks .
The first - a lot of repetition and on .... Nudnovato .
Second - many tips are relevant only for sites inhabited avtor.V same domestic conditions are utopian and comparable with the following advice to citizens - before you pay for utilities certainly require of responsible comrades document which clearly and specifically stated in what are these same services , who , when, to whom and for what amount of documented specifically had them ....
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Article interesting , no doubt .
But there are two drawbacks .
The first - a lot of repetition and on .... Nudnovato .
Second - many tips are relevant only for sites inhabited avtor.V same domestic conditions are utopian and comparable with the following advice to citizens - before you pay for utilities certainly require of responsible comrades document which clearly and specifically stated in what are these same services , who , when, to whom and for what amount of documented specifically had them ....
In the best case - will be sent to the known address . At worst - accused of extremism .
If this reasoning , we should not have anything to navigate. That's right, because few such " boring " articles, many are trying to " analyze " the information from sources such as articles nizkoprbnyh due to which this theme and created on the site.
Already sick from the " grandmother's attic ", " only in salons shopkeepers buy " etc. delirium
In any science needs fundamental knowledge , and life will always make their adjustments is indisputable.



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