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[NEO]

Lots of good and necessary informptsii. Thank you.
A variant bezhoznoy things? Simply find.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от NEO

A variant bezhoznoy things? Simply discoveries.

It's not your own.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от NEO

A variant bezhoznoy things? Simply find.

FIND - finding lost someone things. In civil law the finder of thing does not become its owner. He is obliged to immediately return the thing a person will lose it, or surrender to the police or local administration. If a thing is found in the facility, in the enterprise, transports those who found it must pass the administration of the organization. If undetected owner within two weeks of administration delivers the thing to further storage to the police or the executive committee of the Council of Agriculture, where found items are kept for six months. If during this period, the owner will not be found, the property is transferred to the state. A person who surrenders to return or found something, the right to any compensation which has not, except in cases where compensation has publicly promised the person who lost a thing, but may not claim reimbursement of costs associated with the storage and delivery.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

FIND - finding lost someone things. In civil law the finder of thing does not become its owner. He is obliged to immediately return the thing a person will lose it, or surrender to the police or local administration. If a thing is found in the facility, in the enterprise, transports those who found it must pass the administration of the organization. If undetected owner within two weeks of administration delivers the thing to further storage to the police or the executive committee of the Council of Agriculture, where found items are kept for six months. If during this period, the owner will not be found, the property is transferred to the state. A person who surrenders to return or found something, the right to any compensation which has not, except in cases where compensation has publicly promised the person who lost a thing, but may not claim reimbursement of costs associated with the storage and delivery.

There now! (Thank you, Cyril) So, "legally" feel ..
Just wanted to add that if you find and zavladeesh "(the same as steal) it would be" unconscionable possession .. So?

[Selene]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

There now! (Thank you, Cyril) So, "legally" feel ..
Just wanted to add that if you find and zavladeesh "(the same as steal) it would be" unconscionable possession .. So?

Much depends on where the discovery and found that it is a thing, ie on how the question of ownership, property settled by national legislation. In Russia, for example, there is a possibility under certain conditions, become the owner of the found items.
Article 228 of the Civil Code. Acquisition of ownership of the find
1. If within six months from the application of the discovery to the police or local authority (paragraph 2 of Article 227) a person entitled to receive the found thing, will not be found or does not declare his right to a thing or person who found her to the police or local authority, who found a thing acquires ownership of it.
2. If the finder of the thing refuses to acquire the things found in the property, it comes to municipal ownership.
Estestno, issues with the finding that things are limited in circulation (weapons), or withdrawn from circulation (cocaine) is not decided in the general procedure.

[Сима]

Сообщение от OlgaV

P /S "bona fide possession" in legal parlance means that you work is not stolen, and acquiring it deceived no one, ie excludes theft and fraud.

That's it. So the dealer or gallery should be whether the buyer's request to give the paper is that?
And if somehow transparent, that is a collection of the first generation and the "possession during the" talk weird? And the "prescription" - is how much?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Sima

give a paper that's the point?

It reminded me of the requirement to provide a document "that you're not a camel."
You most anything to prove her ownership is not necessary, I, for example, understand the Civil Code.

[Сима]

Cyril Syzransky, in the first place once again saying that lack of "paper" prevented insurance. Secondly, just remembered. where I had heard this expression - remember the story (with Titian or something) from a foreign museum? He then has exhibited. Since the owner was still on this paper legally purchased. Otherwise I would have selected in FIG.

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OlgaV, take it easy, for God's sake. I know collectors who for some reason this is very caring. Why then?

[Евгений]

Seema, We are somewhere on the forum have already discussed this (I can not find), but the meaning was this:
"Acquisitive Prescription (prescription or possession) is the reason the acquisition of proprietary rights, subject to certain conditions.
Acquisitive prescription is not provided for in Soviet law until 1990, when the Act was passed ownership of the RSFSR, which means protection of actual possession. Under this law, natural or legal person, not the owner of the property, but honestly and openly in possession as an owner of immovable property for at least 15 years old, or any other assets of not less than five years, acquire ownership of the property.

[Сима]

Eugene, ie "public domain" - exhibited. published (mean, "other property" certainly "movable"? I understand it correctly?
And up to 5 years to do?