Kraudfanding and Garry Bardin.

[Glasha]

Сообщение от Seriy; 2705481"

for the artist, in the sense of the painter, you described the scheme looks strange , not to say , questionable.

Seriy, in the sense of an artist painter - creative ideas are creative strife.
And the artist in the sense of the fine - the creator of the creator of discord .
Who knows , maybe you will want to create a school Severodvinsk or Aboriginal painting ?
For the artist, in a broader sense creator - there is generally a large field .

Another thing entice you, it will interest someone else besides you.
I'd love to read, for example , about the happy stories brought to life design projects .
That natalia-v successful project O.Kuvaeva evidence .
 Works right?
The idea is important . That will entice and encourage participation .

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Glasha

That natalia-v successful project O.Kuvaeva evidence.

Yes, this is a good example - he once "have thrown" more than was necessary, more than he asked for and the author immediately NEXT series charted.

[natalia-v]

Directed P.Bardin urged his colleagues not to go cap in hand to V.Medinskomu

Son of the famous animator Garry Bardin director Pavel Bardin urged fellow filmmakers did not seek the help of the Minister of Culture Vladimir Medina, not to be humiliated. On his Facebook page with the director told the story of his father's appeal to the Minister.

Bardin, Sr. asked the Ministry of Culture of prolongation of the agreement on government support as well as due to illness did not have time to finish the work on time. Twice a written request to V.Medinskomu, G.Bardin received the answer: his statement was a resolution "on the same basis."

Now the animator must pay a penalty of 200 thousand rubles. of the money collected through the site planeta.ru to complete work on a new animated film, added P.Bardin.

On the collection of funds, it was announced in late May 2013. Directed by collecting money for the third episode of the new animated film "Three tunes."

At the end of the message P.Bardin addressed to artists: "Colleagues filmmakers, do not write letters, do not go cap in hand - you do not deserve this humiliation."

 http://top.rbc.ru/society/14/08/2013/870046.shtml

[natalia-v]

Good news from www.planeta.ru: about the fate of the project Garry Bardin.

Portal "Planeta.ru" to pay the penalty for Garry Bardin

Echo of Moscow to St. Petersburg
Portal "Planeta.ru" to pay the penalty for Garry Bardin
Portal said that the owners will add to a project Garry Bardin 200,000 rubles, so that he could pay a fine of Culture, Fontanka reported. Recall that Garri Bardin was to hand over the film "Three Melodies" in June of this year, but due to illness, asked the Ministry of Culture to roll over time.

Lenta.ru
Garry Bardin per day listed 400 thousand rubles
The funds were collected using kraundfandingovogo resource Planeta.ru, where Garry Bardin collecting money for the creation of a new cartoon called "Three Melodies".

RIA Novosti
Garry Bardin told about the fine from the Ministry of Culture to 200 thousand rubles
The Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation fined animated film directed by Garry Bardin in the amount of "about 200 thousand rubles," the term for the delay production of animated film "Three Melodies", director told RIA Novosti.

So it has already collected nearly 100 percent of the required amount.
'm Sure that our great forum users did not remain indifferent!! <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[Seriy]

And in the case of Bardeen, and in the case of Kuvaeva people simply convert his popularity to raise money on very favorable terms , any liability to the givers of money. I think the givers of money quickly will realize this and will give money to certain conditions , as it usually happens in the world .
 Actually , David Bowie once did it on a larger scale and more delicately - placed shares for capital in the form of their albums . It is true all the shares of one fund and bought a widely available they were out.
 The most beautiful idea kraudfandinga , IMHO, - collecting money to create glowing in the night plants by genetic engineering. All who pass will receive seed money .

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Сообщение от Seriy; 2716451 "

I think the givers of money quickly will realize this and will give money to certain conditions , as it usually happens in the world .

I think , " givers of money " will understand .
Post a famous cartoonist for the completion of shooting of his film - what else is needed , what other " certain conditions "?
One condition - the film is finished, it will be people watching , and you will know that there is funding for it , and your penny .

[Seriy]

Cyril Syzransky, with what you have?
Ministry of Culture of the money he did not film.

[natalia-v]

Here interview with Harry Jakovlevichem http://www.aif.ru/culture/article/63771, after which, in fact , everything started to happen .
I can not speak for all Odessa , but in this case , in my opinion, not even most importantly, they will receive or not receive the " givers ." It's more like a bonus. But not to help your the man who fell into a humiliating and difficult situation , it seems to me impossible. For me, Harry Y. - his person, his cartoons loved my parents and my kids love . I would like to see and grandchildren and loved his cartoons. I hate that talented and , by and large, defenseless Artist chmoryat some insignificant official, the existing one, by the way, including my money (I am a very disciplined taxpayer ) . I am very pleased that I have had so many like-minded <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[Glasha]

Seriy, I truly misunderstood the essence of your message. Twice sounded "convert its popularity" - Bardin, Norshtejn and (apparently you made a reservation) Tatarsky. However, their popularity, their name - unless it is not their talent plus hard work? Much of that time was funded by the state, but they have created a masterpiece, loved by more than one generation.

Сообщение от Seriy; 2716451"

The most beautiful idea kraudfandinga, IMHO, - collecting money to create glowing in the night plants by genetic engineering. All who pass will receive seed money.

But in return the child to visit the inner sanctum of the famous animation director - to see with your own eyes, touched with their own hands - is it not the same seeds in the best sense? Which will sprout in children with good taste. And the joy of belonging - is not an empty phrase.

Yes, in the end, too, believe that the main "dividends" is very likely the birth of a masterpiece of animation, which again will be a pleasure to watch (instead of the Teletubbies - or whatever they are - and other nonsense) both adults and children, including including your children. I'm sorry, pathetic, perhaps, but is it not?

[Seriy]

Glasha, the essence of my message - kraudfanding - an excellent tool for doing crazy ideas such glowing plants . But when a famous , successful people asking for money from fans , IMHO , it's indecent. But because many national stars notion of propriety strongly blurred , you can take money from the Ministry of Culture ( the people) and do not pass in time film -that it rolls on the first or second time .
Everybody remembers that Kuvaeva money Masjanju investors are given, as a result of which he lost part of copyright. And here and give the money and did not require a return , a dream!
You have heard , that Spielberg in his long career has ever been sick during the filming ? Or Cameron has not given time to sink the Titanic ? Or Madonna fans have asked of money for a new video? The answer is not heard , because these people have any idea of decency , conscience and responsibility.