View Mary, help identify the artist

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Сообщение от angocman; 2523891"

Well defined as authorship and no signature ?

Yes, sometimes determine when authorship, for example, is a world famous as Courbet.
Do you have a picture amateur, but you quite naotvechali all the questions, I'm all over it did not respond to you , got to have this issue only when you started to get angry .
What are angry , then? Well, not a masterpiece ... It happens.
People, we can not reach the limit -
The best words and the best deal
Still ahead, still to come . ( a ) >

[angocman]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Yes, sometimes defined as the authorship, for example, is a world famous as Courbet.
Do you have a picture amateur, but you quite naotvechali all the questions, I'm all over it did not respond to you , got to have this issue only when you started to get angry .
What are angry , then? Well, not a masterpiece ... It happens.
People, we can not reach the limit -
The best words and the best deal
Still ahead, still to come . ( a ) >

This one turns out a masterpiece , and my beautiful girl with a yet unknown gentleman amateurism ?

Jealous ? >

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Сообщение от angocman

This one turns out a masterpiece, and my beautiful girl with a yet unknown gentleman amateurism?

Yes, it turns out - a masterpiece and amateurism.

[Jane Doe]

Сообщение от angocman; 2523841"

I bought for profit and receive profits

That's how it is and was.

Сообщение от angocman; 2523841"

You have been accused

Not at all. I tried to dispel your optimistic dreams. Do not spend any more money on other research. This is a case where the authorship is not definable , but in fact, this and there is no need , then , to judge by the level of art. Well at least not a lot of money spent on the portrait.
Living Art markedly changed its form after ground ball poraskinul on their web internet. Someone helps , some do not . And those who are using the Internet for free prowls masterpiece , very much. And, of course , this demand is closed certain things , that's like , as a portrait of Tsar Nicholas , false granted at work Kustodiev.

Сообщение от angocman; 2523841"

here are the same experts like myself

And that you wasted. Absolutely do not agree.

[angocman]

Сообщение от Jane Doe

That's exactly the way it was.



Not at all. I tried to dispel your optimistic dreams. Do not spend any more money on other research. This is a case where the authorship is not definable, but in fact, this and there is no need, then, to judge by the level of art. Well at least not a lot of money spent on the portrait.
Living Art markedly changed its form after ground ball poraskinul on their web internet. Someone helps, some do not. And those who are using the Internet for free prowls masterpiece, very much. And, of course, this demand is closed certain things, that's like, as a portrait of Tsar Nicholas, false granted at work Kustodiev.


And that you wasted. Absolutely do not agree.

Maybe it's not a masterpiece, but the whole affair is that there is a second picture, and it is a mystery and an incentive to spend on research BIG MONEY >
Do you know many paintings where a second layer, there is another full picture?

A blush on her cheeks of the price for how much it will buy in the future.
Second Djakonda.

And as for experts
Painted a picture painted and smeared after another, and then made two holes and restored after a crack which appeared on the canvas and in the picture they are identical, then this painting sold for $ 300.
And then the "expert" says that this fake.
Find me an artist-technologist who will do this for the money.

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Сообщение от angocman; 2524101"

Do you know many paintings where a second layer , there is another full picture ?

So I personally - a lot. In our okolotke is called reuse the canvas. In amateur works found a very, very often.
But I understand your desire to find a layer of colorful " shepherd with a cucumber " "Portrait of Cardinal " painted by Domenico Theotokopoulou ...

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Сообщение от angocman

And the blush on her cheeks of the price for how much it will buy in the future.

I mean - ashamed pyatialtynny sell?

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Сообщение от Dilettante, 2524231

Domenico Theotokopoulou

 
Who is this, why did not I know?
I know all the great artists.
Leonardo, Rubens, Surikov, and the floor as ...
Theotokopoulou?
Who is this, why did not I know?

[Jane Doe]

Сообщение от angocman; 2524101"

Do you know many paintings where a second layer , there is another full picture ?

Unfortunately, these include all the newly minted counterfeit written on old canvas. Original image or washed away completely, or just peregruntovano and written on it new. One thing, as cited the example of a respected Amateur, the author repeatedly uses his canvas, and another thing when someone else's creativity is destroyed , which is the act of art-historical vandalism.

[angocman]

Сообщение от Jane Doe

Unfortunately, these include all the newly minted counterfeit written on old canvas. Original image or washed away completely, or just peregruntovano and written on it new. One thing, as cited the example of a respected Amateur, the author repeatedly uses his canvas, and another thing when someone else's creativity is destroyed , which is the act of art-historical vandalism .

 This picture is a souped forgery is irrelevant .
Perhaps the author and no one knows , but a more thorough study painting a must , especially since the guy looks like a Renoir.
Chance.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

What is , why did not I know? I know all the great artists . Leonardo , Rubens , Surikov , and the floor as ... Theotokopoulou ? Who is this , why did not I know ?

 Theotokopoulou aka El Greco

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Сообщение от angocman

Theotokopoulou aka El Greco

Oh well!
Really?