The Russian Auction, 2009-03-12, Stockholm

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Сообщение от Vladimir

What can be said about this work Drevin? http://www.auktionsverket.se/dbkatal...33&ma=Y903There are two examination (Nina Lapidus and Tatiana Zelyukinoy).

In the picture - like a good idea, although the trees are slightly sweet, but to be sure - we must look alive. Confusing two things: a fairly low estimeyt and the lack of signature on the back; Udaltsova signed speed most of the works Drevin indicating the name and year of creation.

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Сообщение от Vladimir

Nina Lapidus and Tatiana Zelyukinoy).

Tatyana course authority, but still there and Veronica V. Starodubova, daughter Drevin, the widow of Andrei Aleksandrovich, Doctor of Arts, by the way, and their daughter, Catherine Andreyevna Drevin. They look at this picture should be interesting.

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Even so there Drevin at auction in Gelos.
  Sketch. "Linguistic" .1926, the paper on cardboard, oil. 13,9 x21, 8. Research and independent examination of them. PM Tretyakov. (Expert Zelyukina TS, Voronina EA).
Start-170 000 rub.
Estimate-190000-320000 rub.

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Сообщение от SergeiSK

It seems not to trust Zelyukinoy no reason.

Sorry - no worse than for eyes that something bad irresponsible to talk about a strange-respected man. But the fact is a fact - at least two frank fakes I came across with a positive eksperizoy Zelyukinoy.
Another was an episode: consulted about a third of working with an art critic (and a dealer in one person), saying: "Zelyukinoy and expertise. "You'd better not say that" - was the answer.

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A Drevin me too interested.
Cyril, what you do not like trees?
Sweetish ...

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Tit,
Expert may offend everyone I agree that such examples are numerous - from Petrov to Lomize. Personally, I also have a legitimate claim to GosNIIR. By itself Krasilinu, as well as to Kochkin and Nikolaev. But if you do not trust existing in Russia experts and expert organizations, to whom to believe? Itself, considered acquaintances, experts Gelos, auction? Or experts on this board? So it is better to have a bird in my pocket (in this case examination Zelyukinoy and Lapidus) than a crane in the sky - a virtual view drevinskih trees.

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Сообщение от SergeiSK

But if you do not trust existing in Russia experts and expert organizations, to whom to believe? Himself

You are right only for themselves, experts in Russia do not bear any responsibility, in that the main problem ...

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Сообщение от SergeiSK

So it is better to have a bird in his pocket (in this case examination Zelyukinoy and Lapidus) than a crane in the sky - a virtual view drevinskih trees.

It depends on why: for sale - maybe, but for his own confidence (in this case examination Zelyukinoy) - just one more reason for doubt.

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Сообщение от Tit

Cyril, what you do not like trees?

And you compare the trees on the painting under discussion with the trees on the testimony of my painting Drevin. See how they do not like ... But the form of trunks, they are the same, even on the left a large tree stump can be seen from otpilinnoy large branches on the left. Trees and there, and there are in some places, but that's only draw, in my opinion, their different dyudi.
My opinion: the Stockholm auction exhibited painting Drevin-tampering.
About the picture on Gelos keep silent ...

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In no case shall vote for the authenticity (or vice versa) - I know too little creativity Drevin, but very much different in his style of his work, even in comparison with the sketches, one of which you also have. Who knows, may be a transitional or "continuous" work ... I'm more confused by its finiteness, ie The longer I look - while it is less like, and it is the trees.

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... trees and sky in the trees.

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I asked Ivan Samarin, an expert on Russian art STOCKHOLMS AUKTIONSVERK, comment here now Drevin. If you answer, then his opinion would also be interesting.