Question of index ARTIMX on this site

[LCR]

Сообщение от Nedogonov

In this sense, perhaps, you worthwhile to enter the host of a survey of market participants, whom you must have a majority on the site. And then bring some index "temperature of the market. This, in my opinion, it was used even more interesting ...

I think it is pretty meaningless, because it is known that when the market rises, all the actors (I mean non-professional participants) are confident that he will continue to rise forever, that does not stop them at the first decrease feverishly to sell all its assets: )

In a sense, the stock market, such surveys can even create a trend (if the mass of suckers, to put your words, rowing all that is offered for sale, there is no reason to believe that they suddenly cease to do so). Necessary conditions for this: a) a significant amount of participants and b) unifiirovannost products.

In the art market, both of these conditions are not true, because of its weak liquidity and very high fees, there is no possibility of quick and relatively painless to sell the acquired assets in the event of falling market.

Otherwise, in my opinion, you're right.

[fross]

1. Index based on statistical information provides a reliable picture of the already accomplished transactions. If you'd like to build on their basis of predictive model (rectangular, exponential, etc.).
2. Survey as a way of obtaining reliable information has been repeatedly tested and rejected. Want a simple example? Ask each bidder to any auction that they want to buy and for what amount, and then compare it with the fact that they bought.

[Nedogonov]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

AMER.
North American unified currency, also often referred to as amer from the Eng. amero) - North American currency alleged Soyuz (U.S., Canada and Mexico), which should replace the U.S. dollar, Canadian dollar and Mexican peso.

Only for internal calculations, and only for the participating countries ... What sort of bills ... or private money

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Сообщение от LCR

I think it is pretty meaningless, because it is known that when the market rises, all the actors (I mean non-professional participants) are confident that he will continue to rise forever, that does not stop them at the first lowering feverishly to sell all its assets

In a sense, the stock market, such surveys can even create a trend (if the mass of suckers, to put your words, rowing all that is offered for sale, there is no reason to believe that they suddenly cease to do so). Necessary conditions for this: a) a significant amount of participants and b) unifiirovannost products.

In the art market, both of these conditions are not true, because of its weak liquidity and very high fees, there is no possibility of quick and relatively painless to sell the acquired assets in the event of falling market.

Otherwise, in my opinion, you're right.

Сообщение от LCR

if the mass of suckers, to put your words, rowing all that is offered for sale, there is no reason to believe that they suddenly cease to do so

Lochy - this, of course, not lovers of art and not honest art speculators, and those who want to "raise" bucks, looking at all sorts of Elliott wave, Fibonacci numbers and indicators volotilnosti ...
Loch - it is not curse, and the marker of greed and haste, and I traded him without any neglect, because everyone does know, could lohom ...

[LCR]

Сообщение от Nedogonov

Loch - it is not curse, and the marker of greed and haste, and I traded him without any neglect, because everyone does know, could lohom ...

Yes, I too (and used without neglect, and does know the truth, not on the art market, which I did not buy, but in exchange, especially in the beginning)

[Sandro]

Сообщение от fross

poll as a way of obtaining reliable information has been repeatedly tested and rejected. Want a simple example? Ask each bidder to any auction that they want to buy and for what amount, and then compare it with the fact that they bought.

Agree, a poll will do nothing, everyone will be praising her, and advised him to invest. And in about trends in our market all over each other saying "What kind of ....!", but the round eyes and a graduate-only clients do not talk, you know ... as we say - it's time to invest! ... "
But not so bad, because we ourselves do - art dealers and antique dealers, "as it is called, it is now investing, because can now buy a "good"!
Buy Art!

[Nedogonov]

Сообщение от fross

Debrief bidders prior to any auction that they want to buy and for what amount, and then compare it with the fact that they bought.

In my opinion, the example is not very good. The man who in November laid out for Suprematist compositions of Malevich 60 lemons, he knew and talked about this long. Since almost all major transactions, I think, is ...

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Сообщение от LCR

Yes, I too (and used without neglect, and does know the truth, not on the art market, which I did not buy, but in exchange, especially in the beginning)

Exchange - cool! Tell me, LCR, and by your exchange's experience, all these inldikatory endless ... do they work?
From this attack bore some. Could it be that Soros was sitting in his monitor feysom buried, and not responding to stimuli ...

[fross]

Сообщение от Nedogonov

In my opinion, the example is not very good. The man who in November laid out for Suprematist compositions of Malevich 60 lemons, he knew and talked about this long. Since almost all major transactions, I think, is ...

Really? And who told you what to buy? Who bought?

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от fross

The man who in November laid out for Suprematist compositions of Malevich 60 lemons, he knew and talked about this long. Since almost all major transactions, I think, is ...

Really? And who told you what to buy? Who bought?

So far known only to the singer - here it is:
http://artinvestment.ru/news/artnews...ery_buyer.html

But Nahmady, I heard on the purchase order or for speculation. Himself is not necessary.

And the name of the customer is still not known (it seems to me that after all one of nefterusskih, otherwise why hide it?) "I knew and spoke well" - it's true. In the media in advance of the information was spread that the lot made a guaranteed rate.

[fross]

Сообщение от Vladimir

Wow, and there are technologies to answer the main question investors? If you did, then all would be determined in the market technical analysis - built a grid on the Fibonacci numbers, and built a beautiful "figure" and home to bed with a bag of money to do technical analysis for the morning price indices really fix the past (as well as otherwise? ), but coupled with an indicator of consumer activity can CAUTION assumed direction of further movement.

There are robots to trade on the exchange, they offer a range of different strategies with the ability to configure the user of various parameters, eg restrictions on losses, etc. One of the companies developing such programs StrategyRunner finances creator ICQ Yair Goldfinger, and developers - three of our former citizens.

Сообщение от Vladimir

"I knew and spoke well" - is true. In the media in advance of the information was spread that the lot made a guaranteed rate.

This information was distributed auction house, right? And no one who was going to buy it, but anyone who the current owner is still not known.

[Nedogonov]

Сообщение от Vladimir

And the name of the customer is still not known (it seems to me that after all one of nefterusskih, otherwise why hide it?) "I knew and spoke well" - is true. In the media in advance of the information was spread that the lot made a guaranteed rate.

The fact that nefterusskie - 100 pounds! This is not an investment ... This is a deeper, fundamental - possession

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Сообщение от fross

This information was distributed auction house, right? And no one who was going to buy it, but anyone who the current owner is still not known.

If only one who was going to buy did not want publicity - the auction house and vyaknut would not dare ...
If even the old man's eyes frightened at one time ... And here the scale of the other ...