Internet auction?

[Pavel]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

of course will be ( at first) , but if all the pre - produmat to detail (from the format to the packaging : from money transfer to delivery,

The most important thing after all is. Has all the ingredients (almost)
You can start with the most simple - small size and works on paper /cardboard, without frames and canvases on stretchers ( for convenience). Format of mail art /ArtMania to size " suitcase " ( for example) ...
 Start the mechanism and see. ( And what happens? )
The main thing is that the artist offers adequate prices for AA

We must learn from the experiences of other auctions and similar events. While we are under no obligation either to the west or to the east should take the bull by the horns, but no longer rely on the artists , and the antiques - they are now in poor condition. They need a market.

[NATA NOVA]

Pavel, let's specifics. (And everything , then you have my heart aches !)
Regular auction AA , I only know one. Niche is free .
I repeat : for antique points of sale /purchase is full . (and judging by the topic , ignore "them and so well fed" )
This is for young artists (that do not have died of starvation , well for those who need it ) , "Let all the flowers bloom !"
Even if at first the zeros will be in a social sense , this is a positive , feed the (last) hope Projects ..

[Pavel]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Pavel, let's specifics. (And everything , then you have my heart aches !)
Regular auction AA , I only know one. Niche is free .
I repeat : for antique points of sale /purchase is full . (and judging by the topic , ignore "them and so well fed" )
This is for young artists (that do not have died of starvation , well for those who need it ) , "Let all the flowers bloom !"
Even if at first the zeros will be in a social sense , this is a positive , feed the (last) hope Projects ..

Nata! I'm in District 7 antiques. People there, and it's the auction and advertising and the ability to make money and sell goods . Antinkvaru always easier to make a collection for sale. If they have the opportunity to implement them, then going to buy from the artists and not just cream, but that's all. Artists yourself in the affairs of sales is not very. Will be able to sell, there is demand, it will go .

[Konstantin]

Originally Posted by Konstantin View Post
We tried a while back - hard.

Сообщение от kazerov; 2319391"

and what difficulties ?

The first and main form:
- Repetition of existing internet auctions pointless
- The form of a live auction, but through the Internet (a few days at the auction with a specific date and time of the end ) does not lead to trading , all waiting for the last second to make a bid.
- What to do with the pictures ? they are brought to our office , that is exactly is available, or they remain in the auction from the owners ? And if you sold them to the reality there ? How to authenticate ? Who is responsible?
If everything is done in a live auction, only to conduct online auctions - and the meaning? Why is the picture will suffer us not to scoop or Sotheby's ?
If the pictures do not collect and do not bear responsibility than we differ from ebeya or hammer ?
There are many questions yet to begin and this will suffice.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Konstantin

First and foremost format:
- Repetition of existing internet auctions pointless
- The form of a live auction, but through the Internet (a few days at the auction with a specific date and time of the end) does not lead to trading, all waiting for the last second to make a bid.
- What to do with the pictures? they are brought to our office, that is exactly is available, or they remain in the auction from the owners? And if you sold them to the reality there? How to authenticate? Who is responsible?
If everything is done in a live auction, only to conduct online auctions - and the meaning? Why is the picture will suffer us not to scoop or Sotheby's?
If the pictures do not collect and do not bear responsibility than we differ from ebeya or hammer?
There are many questions yet to begin and this will suffice.

The basic idea - AA on AI (afordabl art on Artinvestment).
What (except Gormley) AAA (af, art auctions) generally known?
I just do not know the other. When I wrote about the niche, I just meant only AA.
Sotheby's is not engaged in the AA (cheaper than £ 2000 - (100 000rub?) They do not see), do not work with the living and the unknown.
Did I mention the size is not by chance (for convenience). To reduce the difficulty.
In the "how to promote .." there was a discussion.
This only has a regular and continuous, (to unsold participated in some time again)

PS. but if you really have no time to tinker and organize (staff inflate, etc,) and if you do not see a niche, and do not think about the case or any mention ..
And the idea has long been in the air-NO AA auctions (and if so, give links pliz!)

[Seriy]

NATA NOVA, c AA two problems:
1.Gde take good work for the AA price? On Artnau to 4 thousand rubles - thousands of works from?
2. What is the return on AA? . Here Gormlis sold 150 works of 200 pounds is 30 thousand How much profit , if 25 %- 7500. And we need this amount for a month have several employees , office , website and pay the taxes . It is unclear how they exist .
IMHO , we need specialized auctions with good facilitators . For example, only an abstraction, only the landscape , or just painting a certain period.
How to promote an auction? Both in Russia and abroad. In general , it's starting from scratch and pull the strap on the success of a long time. It's not easy .

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Konstantin

The first and foremost the format:

Constantine, you're right - it will not work.

New here can only be a private initiative.
Someone who is credible, and the taste and everything else needed for this kind of business.

[kazerov]

Сообщение от Konstantin

First and foremost format:
- Repetition of existing internet auctions pointless
- The form of a live auction, but through the Internet (a few days at the auction with a specific date and time of the end ) does not lead to trading , all waiting for the last second to make a bid.
- What to do with the pictures ? they are brought to our office , that is exactly is available, or they remain in the auction from the owners ? And if you sold them to the reality there ? How to authenticate ? Who is responsible?
If everything is done in a live auction, only to conduct online auctions - and the meaning? Why is the picture will suffer us not to scoop or Sotheby's ?
If the pictures do not collect and do not bear responsibility than we differ from ebeya or hammer ?
There are many questions yet to begin and this will suffice .

Responsibility ... buyers and sellers - the preliminary guarantee fee (different ()), in the case of non-observance of commitments guarantee fee goes the other party less commission aa.

... there are many questions as possible situations.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от K-Maler; 2321331"

Constantine, you're right - it will not work

Сообщение от kazerov; 2321431"

preliminary guarantee fee (different ())

Strongly without me (consistent idiosyncrasy to " cash in advance ")

Сообщение от Seriy; 2321241"

How to promote an auction? Both in Russia and abroad .

re-title, for example ..

Сообщение от Konstantin; 2320901"

- Repetition of existing internet auctions meaningless ,

It feels like (judging by the questions) that are either not in the subject, or not interested.

And I also wonder ether shake ( and time wasting ) is not interested.
Only interested in one question: AA auctions. Where? (except Gormley )

[artcol]

What's the point of these auctions?
Auctions living artists (in the sense of their work)?