Price "Princess Tarakanov."

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NapiAl : "With the provenance , of course, with the provenance. " But decided against it - appreciate both cases, AMP- hundred!

It's hard to evaluate the product from the collection of Pavel Tretyakov but still as popular , although with some copyright repeats.
How? The museum is not the owner of the works , it only stores the public property .
I can not imagine even hypothetically similar situation.

Well, if there really is some kind of pattern pupil IAH, which is awarded to archival documents a small gold medal , and then a gold medal , was promoted very best artist of the 1st degree and a pensioner's right to travel abroad for six years, and then also a professor at the picture was , let it be by two and a half meters on the large side - I think ... eeee ... multiply ... write two , seven went to mind ... get crazy money!
 

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I find it difficult to assess the product from the collection of Pavel Tretyakov even such a popular, albeit with some copyright repeats.
How? The museum is not the owner of the works, it only stores the public property.
I can not imagine even hypothetically similar situation.

Well, if there really is some kind of pattern pupil IAH, which is awarded to archival documents a small gold medal, and then a gold medal, was promoted very best artist of the 1st degree and a pensioner's right to travel abroad for six years, and then also a professor at the picture was, let it be by two and a half meters on the large side - I think ... eeee ... multiply ... write two, seven went to mind ... get crazy money!
 

All right. Then go to the other end and count up the cost of silver royal time of Alexander II in the amount of 4300 rubles. According to rough estimates, this would amount to 20 million today - 130 million rubles, depending on the quality of the coins. Practical amount of 20 million, as not the fact that Tretyakov paid coins "fresh" coinage.

Ie we are conditional, the amount of 640 000

Can we hypothetically say that the cost of such a picture "of the museum", put up for sale (in the appropriate place in the world at the moment), or being offered a collector, may, with great probability, to grow to 10 or 100 times ie be sold for $ 6.4, or, say $ 64 million?

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Can I hypothetical to say that the cost of such a picture "of the museum," put up for sale (in the most appropriate place place on earth at the moment) , or being offered a collector might , with great likely to grow up to 10 or 100 times, ie, be sold for $ 6.4 , or, say $ 64 million ?

If " of the museum " but with such provenance , I think it may well be worth 6.4 , completely.
For comparison, in the year of Repin's " Parisian cafe "- thing is just a museum , in my opinion - at Christie's was sold for 4.52 million British pounds.

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If " of the museum " but with such provenance , I think it may well be worth 6.4 , completely.
For comparison, in the year of Repin's " Parisian cafe " - thing is just a museum , in my opinion - at Christie's was sold for 4.52 million British pounds , which is more than 7 million.

That is , if we now make allowances for the fact that it's still not Repin , and along with " assume " that the coins were the same , as the average in UNC 's rarity and also " kept in a museum" , we get (again COARSE ) the amount of $ 4.16 million

Ie we come to the " cultureless " concluded that in this case, investment component purchases Tretyakov was essentially zero. You'll have to forgive me for such cynical calculations ... < - ~ 12 ~ ->

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Ie we come to the " cultureless " to the conclusion that in this case, the investment component of buying Tretyakov was essentially zero .

Tretyakov and not so invested art - it is a collector and collector of Russian art.

He " Princess Tarakanov " bought in 1887, after the Paris World's Fair , and at the same time in the Paris Salon rejected of Pissarro , Cezanne , Monet , Renoir, Sisley, Bazille ...
Yes it to these 4300 silver rubles paid to the deceased 's brother , KD Flavitsky for "Princess ", and it is somewhere just over 14 tons francs Impressionists landscape but still lifes have bought and now it would be an investment. A?

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So Tretyakov and did not invest in art - it is a collector and collector of Russian art.

Yes it to these 4300 silver rubles paid to the deceased 's brother , KD Flavitsky for "Princess ", and it is somewhere just over 14 tons francs Impressionists landscape but still lives here and have bought it would have been an investment with a capital letter. A ?

Yes , it would be just a very good investment .
(Russian classicism - French Impressionism : 0-1)

Clear and understandable that venture capital returns were not ( important) , the driving force for the Tretyakov when creating his collection. The question was more about the result of this action (not the good intentions of the great man ) in such a simple and ordinary financial terms.
And if not for the greed of brothers , the picture could well hang somewhere now in the Louvre.

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And if not for the greed of brothers, the picture could well hang somewhere now in the Louvre.

I do not think so.

Of Russian art that hangs in the Louvre?

No, do not think there would be hung.