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Старый 09.07.2012, 00:58 Язык оригинала: Русский       #11
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Well, actually it is possible to throw in such information. In the USSR, it would call ideological deviation .
While the need to rely on the integrity of the resource , but it will take a little time to clear up all the locks, then it will be clear .
http://news.mail.ru/inregions/south/...26/?frommail=1

formation of the initiative group : http://maxim71maxim71.livejournal.com/370290.html



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Старый 09.07.2012, 01:05 Язык оригинала: Русский       #12
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If allowed to cheat, especially to threaten and intimidate those who speak the truth, then tomorrow it can happen anywhere and with anyone.
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As for the tragedy in the Kuban region can only repeat what has already said about fires Mordovia and Ryazan. Every year we learn what we have there is no more. In Chechnya, we know that we have no army. With the "Kursk", we know that we do not have divers. With Evsukova we know that we do not have police. With the "lame horse" we know that we do not have disaster medicine. With fires, we know that we have no fire, rangers, and lifeguards. Now we know that we do not have drainage systems, rescue helicopters, boats, warning systems and so on and so forth.
We must understand one simple thing - you have no state. In the case of an emergency situation you find yourself face to face with disaster. You have no one to help. There will be no warning. There will be no helicopters. There will be no diving. There will be no police. There will be no paramedics. You will throw again, buddy. As always.
It is necessary to realize very clearly. And further their lives and safety of their family life to build, on the basis of this postulate.


This country is to survive only a strong healthy male individuals who can fight for their own lives. If you have the power to extinguish a house fire during the basin - you will survive. If you have the strength to stay on the water three hours after leaving the bottom of the "Bulgar" - you will survive. If you have the strength to climb a pole during a flood - you will survive. In all other cases, you're doomed. Help comes to you, at best, a few hours that you will have to survive on their own. How will you survive this watch - it's your problem. How are you going to drag their children to post or to divert them from the fire - your problems, too.
Shoigu, the Emergencies Ministry, the Be-200, rescue helicopters, fire trucks, submarines - all this is only TV. Well, a little bit in Moscow. Throughout the rest of Russia, the state is not at all.
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Neverdjayevskaya reservoir is not to blame for flooding in the Kuban.
" To such conclusion the initiative group of citizens Krymsk , which at the suggestion of Governor Alexander Tkachev, today inspected the dam from the air ", - told the press service of the region .
Lies !
What sane person would believe rogues and thieves ?
Now the emergency dam urgently mend , will show after the repair work.
We ate there all would have been fine for a long time would show a reservoir.

Lies !

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Старый 09.07.2012, 01:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #13
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Neberdzhaevskoe reservoir not to blame for flooding in the Kuban.
"This is the conclusion people Krymsk initiative group, which at the suggestion of Governor Alexander Tkachev today inspected the dam from the air" - told in the press service of the head of the region.
Lies!
What sane person would believe crooks and thieves?
Now the emergency dam urgently mend, will show after repairs.
If everything was fine, for a long time would have shown this reservoir.

Lies!

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Have you ever been to hell? Before, I do not. So ... today is a branch Krymsk hell on zemle.To whats strashno.Skazhu-once-I maintain a 100%release of water was!, This is not rain.
.................
Eyewitnesses:
-On the street, in the dark, there were people screaming for help, screaming gromko.Mimo floated dead animals, furniture, cars.
-We are calling for help, but no one will hear.
-We woke neighbor shouting "Val, we're sinking! Save the children!"
-A neighbor's son serves in the military unit, he was summoned to 11 pm, without saying anything.
-In the morning and went to the police saying that we did not tell anybody anything.
Around-the place where the fence was, growing cherries, and for her frantically clutching, crying and screaming girl, asking pomoschi.Potom cry in the night was gone.
Spoke with the rescuers .. On the morning of July 8 was officially 110 corpses, for this hour is 10, but this is only the beginning, as they slovam.Eto those pulled from the rubble, which has just started razbirat.Ozhidayut there will be many dead . lot missing detok.Ofitsialno-4 children died.
...............
Seen on the streets covered with dead people.
Affected almost unanimously say that the governor deceived prezidenta.Byl plums! And plums came with Neberzhitskogo reservoir.
.................
Everything points to the fact that the water was from that vodohranilischa.Hvatit lie, gentlemen vlastderzhaschie.Lyudi not fools. Nobody! Hear-no one will remember the President or the Governor with a kind word, but also in politics nobody udaryalsya.Prosili aid, water, clothes and bread.
...............
I tried to go to the administration, there are very actively working machinery for pumping vody.kak and savings bank, but I was stopped by vigorous police, saying, Take kameru.Nepolozheno. When I asked, why not help people, why are saving adm building when people knee to mud and water? Answer: first of all we clean these buildings to work .... Yep, threatening to break the camera, adding, divorced you here , curious ...
People thanked, and I was very ashamed .. ashamed that nothing but water can not help them ...
Fully + 66 pictures here.

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Wrote tvit.Ne expect such rezonansa.Napisala truth. Just a short time in a personal tweet and phone call to (here I am, and oh @ @ la, sorry). Meaning, "Shut up, bitch. Deleted photos, tweets sterla.Chtoby live peacefully"
I called a lawyer, even the boys. Say-erase of him. Mole here, Kuban so ..
I feel as if the shit nastupila.Udalila.vse.Da, I'm afraid.
It's disgusting that a blind kutenok .. sovrala.No as if it's true!
Ya KRYMSKE.FOTO In TVITERE.POST EVENING



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Старый 09.07.2012, 01:33 Язык оригинала: Русский       #14
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My daughter two years, and on the night of the flood, she learned to swim - the room that slept with his daughter Irina, flooded almost to the ceiling, Irina says that the ceiling had about half a meter:
- Windows and doors are opened, the water propped up outside. Been there for five hours, with two in the morning to seven in the morning. Then the water is squeezed out with air conditioning, were able to escape to the street. That is left to Loesche. And if I did not wake up, have sunk to a daughter.
Ask how awake? Maybe, after all, was at least someone to whom people came from the mythical city hall, bypassing the courts to the alert?
- Yes, what city hall - laughing Irina. - I intuitively awoke, I felt that something was wrong.
And when we came to light, the street stood a emcheesnik, I asked where to go. He said - wherever you want.

- By the way, warning - suddenly said Alex Pear, neighbor Irene. - Er, I forgot to show you.
Reaching for the phone. SMS per subscriber MCHS_112: "MOE informed, In Gelendzhik, Crimea and Novorossiysk areas (part of the text is missing. -" B ")."
- Do you know when it? Here, - climbing in the "information about the message." Date - July 7 (ie Saturday, the day of the flood), time - 12:52.38.
 The city was already in ruins, the water has receded, and now it is the time the authorities were able to inform the citizens, and then some - Alex Pear was the one who was able to show me the warning text messages.

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Старый 09.07.2012, 11:49 Язык оригинала: Русский       #15
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will clear all the gateways
And this is enough :
Alexander Tkachev , " Notification that the possible effects of heavy rainfall to exit the river beyond , arrived at 22 o'clock in the evening. Next . The peak load of water began in the morning and lasted up to three , you are better than I do . What do you think , my dear, if today , even 22 hours with a break of three to one in the morning , we had everyone around ? It's impossible. What are the forces? And you have that, got up and left , so to speak , of the house ? "

Really, what people to notify . Any means of defense and MOE have.
But reportedly , "its" is still alerted and helicopters helped.



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Старый 09.07.2012, 12:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #16
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Yes, and this is enough :
Alexander Tkachev , " Notification that the possible effects of heavy rainfall to exit the river beyond , arrived at 22 o'clock in the evening. Next . The peak load of water began in the morning and lasted up to three , you are better than I do . What do you think , my dear, if today , even 22 hours with a break of three to one in the morning , we had everyone around ? It's impossible. What are the forces? And you have that, got up and left , so to speak , of the house ? "

Really, what people to notify . Any means of defense and MOE have.
But reportedly , "its" is still alerted and helicopters helped .
Yes, these words should be a warning to remove Tkachev . Clearly, not all -powerful force in ( in the opinion of the titans of democratic thought ) of power, but it is a shameful position.



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Старый 09.07.2012, 18:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #17
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Gelendzhik:

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Yes, these words should be a warning to remove Tkachev .
appeals to dismiss the governor of the Krasnodar Territory Alexander Tkachev in the " United Russia " is considered unacceptable and cynical. As the correspondent of IA REGNUM, July 9 the head of the faction "United Russia " , Russian State Duma Andrei Vorobyov said : " I believe that this is unacceptable , ugly and even cynical ".
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Alexander Tkachev, "Notification that the possible effects of heavy rainfall to exit the river beyond, arrived at 22 o'clock in the evening. Next. The peak load of water began in the morning and lasted up to three, you are better than I do. What do you think, my dear, if today, even 22 hours with a break of three to one in the morning, we had everyone around? It's impossible. What are the forces? And you have that, got up and left, so to speak, of the house? "

Really, what people to notify. Any means of defense and MOE have.
But reportedly, "its" is still alerted and helicopters helped.
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So, Tkachev has made clear to the country that today a modern city in 3 hours can not tell the event of emergency.


This leads to a simple conclusion.
Defense can not tell the people about the beginning of the war.
MOE can not inform about the emergency.
MIA can not tell the people about the state of emergency.
Upon this knowledge should automatically lead to the resignation of the heads of all these ministries.

What's the point in the Defense Ministry, if it is not ready for war?
What's the point in the MOE, if it is not ready for emergencies?
What is the meaning of the Interior Ministry, if it can not ensure the safety of citizens?

Billions vbuhivaem all these structures. We live in an age of terrorism, and to inform a small town can not?

Not only Tkachev appointed by the President. He appoints and all these security forces.

At the palace in a reserved forest, found the money. On a couple of sirens - no.
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Alexander Tkachev, "Notification that a possible heavy rainfall with consequences beyond the exit of the river, arrived at 22 o'clock in the evening. Further. Peak load of water began in the morning and lasted up to three, you better than I know. What do you think, my dear, if today even at 22 hours, with an interval of three to one in the morning, we had everyone around? It's impossible. By what means? And you would say that, got up and left, so to speak, out of the house? "

Indeed, why should people alert. Any means of defense and MOE have.
But according to reports, "us" yet notified and helicopters helped.
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So, Tkachev made clear to the country that is today a modern city 3 hours can notify the emergency event.


This leads to a simple conclusion.
Defense can not inform people about the war.
MES can not notify an emergency.
MIA can not notify people of emergency.
Upon this knowledge should automatically lead to the resignation of the heads of all these ministries.

What is the point in the Defense Ministry, if it is not ready for war?
What is the point in the MOE, if it is not prepared for emergencies?
What is the point in the Interior Ministry, if it can not ensure the security of citizens?

Billions vbuhivaem all these structures. We live in an age of terrorism, and to inform a small town is not able to?

Not only Tkachev appointed by the President. He appoints and these siloviki.

A palace in the protected forest money was found. On a couple of sirens - no.
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vbuhivaem Billions of all these structures .
" Emergency rescuers working in the affected by the floods of the Kuban Cossack village Nizhnebakansky , enlisted the help of volunteers :
Colonel MES : "We need rubber boots, 60 pairs at least , without them we can not work , Gloves - 100 pairs , 100 pieces of respirators , too , because you have to take out the corpses of animals , and there is a strong smell . There are no chain saws , and wheelbarrows to waste . "

Why is MOE itself did not provide their employees with everything you need ( the journalist asked CP), Lt. Col. difficult to answer . " Is it to know the truth - is someone who needs it ? I try not to think of such things . "



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"We need rubber boots, 60 pairs at least , without them we can not work , Gloves - 100 pairs , 100 pieces of respirators , too , because you have to take out the corpses of animals , and there is a strong smell . There are no chainsaws wheelbarrows and garbage ».
Volunteers belolentochniki already purchased and brought everything you need to emcheesnikov .
Opposition MP Ilya Ponomarev, issued the call and the people have already gathered four million rubles. , And coordinating the work of volunteers Krymsk led Mary Baronova , which is under investigation for a meeting on June 6 , and Anna Popova, which at a rally riot police broke his hand during the arrest . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->



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