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По умолчанию 200th Anniversary of the War of 1812.

Roll call of two victories: this is not final, it is only the beginning

Timothy Serhejts

June 22 (according to the current so-called Gregorian New Style), Napoleon announced to his troops to march on Russia, calling the campaign a "second Polish war." Yes, on this day. Would be worth it to us to celebrate as a day of national testing and courage.

Despite the differences are exactly 129 years, despite the industrial and political revolution in the world, separating the two identical dates between two howling us very much in common - to morphological literal repetition. Even the technical approach to the conquest of Russia for nearly half a century has not changed one iota. It is no coincidence the two wars we call domestic. Both of them ran into our historical memory, acquired a sacred significance. And it is precisely the memory of the first invasion helped to overcome the second.

Usurper united Europe against Russia. And Napoleon, and Hitler rapidly, in about a decade, with new-fangled ideology and revolutionary social technologies came to the pinnacle of power and conquered continental Europe. Both times that do not really even mind. Both are recognized as the usurper of the European civilization of heroes who have received a place on the right of the strong and dignified. Both times England appeared an ally of Russia, who defended Russia in the end of the invasion. And both times, Britain reaped the laurels of the main winner, announcing the outcome of events in Europe precisely because of its political and military victory.

Blitzkrieg kaput. It is known that Hitler was counting on a victory for a month or two, as in all his previous military campaigns in Europe. But it does not come up with it. The main method of Napoleon consisted in imposing the enemy general battle, which the usurper, and won. What, in fact, a blitzkrieg. Russian avoided a general engagement throughout the summer of 1812, then agreed to take him at Borodino, and had not been defeated. Then again evaded. The war became protracted. Blitzkrieg failed.

retreat. I had to retreat to Moscow - both times. Yes, Napoleon entered, and there is no Hitler. There is a difference era. But the "point of no return" one. As for the Poles - two centuries before Napoleon. No need to go to Moscow to reach Moscow, to go to Moscow. This really is the place. It still chose Dolgoruky. And he understood this. It is no coincidence all sorts of Russophobia, and still personifies his hatred of Russia as a hate above all to Moscow.

Scorched Earth. And as time Moscow was burning more than four days, from 14 to 18 September 1812 th. Burned more than five sixths of the city. The usurper was forced to move out of the Kremlin - from the very European residence, built by the Italians. During the Great Patriotic we are burned and blew up their city before the arrival of the Germans - as well as to Moscow in 1812. To the great chagrin and bewilderment of the German, does not fit into the framework of German rationalism. What to do - Russian barbarians.

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The guerrillas, in other words the terrorists., and in general people are peasants, but primarily it was the peasants, under the new "power" does not lay down. As the invaders seemed nonsense. After all, like, on the European understanding what you guys, the difference is who is the master? It turns out there's a difference. Napoleon left without forage. Bread is not just cleaned and is decorated ... destroyed. French (and later the Germans) were killed without much conversation. They gathered in the woods and out endlessly attacked communications. In 1812 captured wagons, and in 1941 "derailed." The new "power" to understand this phenomenon and could not - either then or later. Hitler believed that the rush to him in the leg away from Stalin, and Napoleon came, too - free from slavery. 'Slaves', however, came in its own way - as a truly free people. Without oglyadok complexes and on the "civilization."

Marshall wins. At the beginning of the war, both times in Russian was bad with the management of the army, with the command. Kutuzov took the army on August 29, Zhukov - October 10. That is, in the autumn, in a difficult situation. Both are essentially personally determined strategy is victory. Is there such a thing - Russian long harness. That looks like a crisis and is accompanied by loss of life, in fact, there is a unique process of collective self-Russian, when the army and the people with the leadership become one. And intellectually, and morally. And then they win where it seems all the other Europeans simply impossible.

The gendarme of Europe. Both times it ended in the occupation of the capital of the aggressor. And the Russian control of pan-European processes and countries - the control of legitimate and well deserved. The ideology of control differed, but the essence was the same: no need for us to go to war, and then you will have to live under us.

«White Ribbon", ie flags. Traitors both times dreamed that we finally won the European "civilizer" which alone can teach us foolish, rude and wild, to live like human beings. And for this, and let vyporet and punish. They still dream about it.

Heroes. Do not spare his stomach, gave his life for his friends. Now is the host of heaven. Both times, the war was popular. The Holy War. The first has already erected a temple - the restored Cathedral of Christ the Savior. Second memory still needs to be visible Orthodox worship.

Perhaps there are other similarities. But for the withdrawal of enough of those listed above. Our memory is, findeth event in 1812 as sacred, durable, skeleton came into popular consciousness in 1941.

It let Comprehending those who believe that in order to build future success, "a comfortable European country" (presumably within Moscow and Moscow region) need to forget our history. Well, really, what it be remembered - because it was not with us. That is, let's decide right away, so that we can not - as they are. And if anyone will go for us, we just give up, no nonsense. But everything else - is "Putin's propaganda." Yet for 129 years, this "propaganda" (then "Nicholas", probably) has been proved to be very important.

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"Say, Uncle, it is no vain ..." Definitely not for nothing. Not for nothing was given victory - both times. And it's not just fallen in ruin, the depletion of the popular forces - and the forces of power, by the way, too.

Nothing in 1812 did not end there. As in 1941. Fights, fights ... And then ...

That's the magic numbers:

1812 +13=1825

Do you remember? End of an Era. And a temporary end to the imported liberalism. The king came authoritarian. The one that marked the beginning of the Russian railways.

And more:

1941 +12 = 1953

End of an era, too, only this time the liberalization of victory - along with the change in the king with great humor. If the 1825-m "modernizers" have put in place, then in 1953 began a different process - denial of what we really "tired". And the commotion. "Thaw" and vilification previous king.

Both wars have left behind fatigue and a desire to heal "as they have there" - those who won. They wanted this really is the new generation. In total - military victory began to turn slowly in a political defeat. In the 1825-meters, of course, it was not so deep as in the 1960s, although the Crimean War - in fact, the then detect our backlog - can not be called brilliant. So, the way out 1825 was also far from perfect - for all his real humanity of the twentieth century against the backdrop. As the saying goes, we are not one of those Muravyovs, which hung, and of those Muravyovs who were hanged.

It does not say that winning is not necessary, we incline to what many intelligent liberal voices, and that says that a victory should still work correctly after a historical perspective. Since the victory - not ending historical process. And it can not escape the dialectic - after the victory can not be complacent and need to plan the actual historical development. Otherwise, the return process history can severely damage the state. Victory should be able to continue in the internal life of the country and in foreign policy, not just "freeze" in the memorial and eternal fame.

You can say this: the people and characters should be real reward for their efforts. That we still have to do and to do otherwise, we have taken away the victory, along with the memory of her. And the first and second, although by and large it is always one and the same victory.




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