Oranienbaum help identify the author and can be called!

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Сообщение от tatysha; 2093151"

Amateur unfortunately take a picture of the number I could not,

It is a pity ...

Сообщение от tatysha; 2093151"

in the Hermitage said that the picture is similar to the work of Fedotov, but in addition he had another 8 masters, who wrote in the same style

Eight? Why is eight, not ten or fourteen? The mystery, however ...
Unfortunately, your photos can only be very roughly even identify, but merely suggest the time of painting: 1840 - 1860.
 I would like to still see the picture of the general form and - if possible - fragments.
By the way, if the picture when viewed from GE employees are not alarmed, then no marks, evidence of its former membership of a museum collection - is not enough. So, guess what the tea leaves, it is necessary, do not fear <! - ~ 1 ~ -> picture carefully removed from the frame, and attributed to the Russian Museum for examination. (Believe me, stories about "muleny" that allegedly charged for the examination avid art historians, for the most part - absolute nonsense. Leave these stories by the fireplace on the conscience of "Croesus," which paid a similar sum on demand. Ay-y, the oligarchs! Chu ! silent ... hiding ... all diamonds sewn into a pillow ...)
A portrait of something you have, apparently, good, and the prospect of authorship, in my opinion - certainly is. If you want, I can advise. free
I wish good luck, dabbler.

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Сообщение от uriart

Granny in any do not want to unpack!

Baby talk!

And my grandmother - they takovskie!
(Just you - not my grandmother, and that's in doubt <! - ~ 1 ~ -> ...)

[tatysha]

Thank you very much for your advice and help =)
seems to be in the Russian Museum requested $ 400 for examination.

My grandmother did not give was because I thought , they say the picture will be evaluated , say 450 dollars, and for the examination will give the 400 .. think worth the risk ?)

and that you helped us with the picture , we need a good photo or something else? <! - ~ 3 ~ ->

[Борисович]

It is more expensive frame.

Do not you wonder what you have on hand?

And in vain began his post with the words "allegedly lost from the museum in Oranienbaum."
You do what?

[tatysha]

The picture still is not mine, and my grandmother.
As she asked for - and wrote

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от dabbler

A portrait of something you have, apparently, good, and the prospect of authorship, in my opinion - certainly is.

In the costume, it looks like the image of actress, singer, maybe ...
The dress is too short to represent the ladies.
Perhaps this is a suit ....
something like Suzanne ...

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от dabbler ; 2093211"

when creating a picture: 1840 - 1860 .

Comrade " dabbler ."
You said the key phrase : 1840-1860 's.

But you're being clever .
You know perfectly well that such a frame in the 1840s could not have been born at this time was a completely different style.

And I was very surprised that you're so thin in the mapping of concepts , it is not noticed my remark that perfectly clear: whether it is within the Baroque , whether early eclecticism.

But it is unlikely 1810-1840 's.

Well , say what you think .

Well, did so in 1810-1840 's.
Estle you have examples , we give , but I do not know.

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Guriev, Igor, I was your replica, of course, noticed. (I notice all the replicas. How Leskov wrote: I have so much eye pristrelyamshi <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
You're right, my assumptions about the dating was a little premature - details are not visible completely. But not in 1810's - exactly. Maybe Tatysha vouchsafed, and lay out a good picture. That's when the conversation would be substantial. By then the good photos - what used to date ... and do not pre ...
If you enlighten on the frame - I would be grateful. Honestly, honestly.

Сообщение от K-Maler; 2093911"

dress is too short to represent the ladies. Perhaps this is a suit .... something like Suzanne ...

And you - are absolutely right, the most similar to a theatrical costume soubrette. (Par ex. - Glyceria N. Fedotov as Syuzon .. just kidding). There seems to be, and the apron is ...

Сообщение от tatysha; 2093471"

My grandmother did not give was because I thought, they say the picture will be evaluated, say 450 dollars, and for the examination will give the 400 .. think worth the risk?)

In my opinion, the cost of examination is not comparable to the cost of painting (well, if you have not registered by hand wreath <! - ~ 1 ~ ->.
Was I in your place - do not hesitate to have carried the picture of the Russian Museum for examination. Frankly, there is no risk in that I do not see. On the contrary - odne, with only a magical perspective. Perhaps removing the frame, you will find the author's signature ... Perhaps the timing officials looking, looking at tinyscope, and say: Oh-oh-oh! But it's even the great John Doe! We learn of his divine hand!
But even if the signature is not, and the author's name can not be established, then at least you will certainly determine the dating. Science as we know, a lot can gitik <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
A deal - you.
Good luck, dabbler.

[Toinen]

On the muddy photos size of a postage stamp, and spotted Fedotov and Pukirev and God knows who.
And the time (the first half of XIX c.) Found.
Cool!
I do not know how.

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Сообщение от Toinen; 2094131"

troubled by the size of pictures made ​​out of a postage stamp , and Fedotov and Pukirev and God knows who.

Nah, " Fedotov ," according to Tatysh'i , identified Part . In the ET . And about Pukirev does anyone say anything ? So I hat to the fields ! Again, missed the fun .
As to the " to muddy pictures of a postage stamp size " - Wow . It is a reproach - as a reproach. Just did - Quo usque tandem abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra? Straight the nail on the head. At most , that on there , the center. (This is after all , come , the first online statement as to the authenticity and dating of the paintings reproduced in the form of " muddy photos size of a postage stamp ?" Never anything like this had happened ? Precedent , but ...)

[Konstantin]

tatysha, you need to solve the problem with the normal count, otherwise the final roll call in the pick who is steeper, which seems to be not afraid, but casually, and you get the picture, and your grandmother.