A question for connoisseurs of inventory (account) numbers.

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Dmitry N.

But again, I do not understand how it can help to set,

You are here contend come from?

Tomorrow will correct your question is not according to the rules - the topic will be deleted.

[Dogel]

Сообщение от Konstantin

You came here contend ?
Tomorrow will correct your question is not according to the rules - the theme will be removed .

You all scare ... ! ! ! !

Dmitry Nikolayevich not interested in the attribution of the picture ... his simple human question .... inventory ( accounting ) number, can anyone encountered this ? and all ... and then by the size of the year

You would be better Yandex Directives or runner moved , and that very little movement on the forum ....

[Дмитрий Николаевич]

Сообщение от Kirill Syzran; 2082331"

Sometimes it helps the mere sight of the inscription as it is made, what, etc.

Cyril Syzran, let us order.

"Sometimes it helps to label the mere sight: how it's done"
I think the look is my label any useful information will not. But as I said, I'm not a professional in this matter. It is written in such a type that could be done in the 18th century and today. But why not to look at her more experienced companion. I assume that the inscription was made before 1941. Just from shooting there are technical (temporary problem), I have to go, the picture is not my home. So just in case I spend it in the examination of the UV rays, for me it's not a problem. Photos in the UV part of the sector can not do, because My digital cameras has a quartz optics. And just a question for the pros: how to better inspect the filter?

"How it's made, what, etc."
To say, in my opinion, than it is made, it is necessary to carry out chemical analysis of paint. To this I have neither the time nor the extra funds.
But when you consider that for me sometimes difficult to distinguish from the pastel pencil drawing or charcoal for example, why not take a photo and post it to the network?
So tell me what to remove more. I can spend shooting in the slanting rays. With shooting in the infrared range can also be solved, but, in my opinion, its holding in this case is meaningless. And a trip to the IR lamp, this is a lost day for me.
Perhaps, as I suppose, it is important to remove the regime in photomicrography, well, for example, cap nails driven into the frame. In appearance the cap, probably, we can assume the period. Please give up my trip.

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Сообщение от Konstantin; 2082401 '

You came here contend?

I do not "set ajar," and I beg to explain, I said that I do not understand.
As I wrote to you, and in a personal, and in the subject, I am tomorrow, or, in extreme cases, the day after tomorrow. 'll post photos of the account number and I will give answers to the questions that they know. Or do I need to take a photo of it tomorrow?

Posted 59 minutes
Dogel, you read that right!
It turns out that you started to bicker. So, just in case:
Konstantin, "OLC" three times for himself and three for the Dogel,

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Dmitry N. ; 2082461"

But if we consider that for me sometimes difficult to distinguish from the pastel pencil drawing or charcoal for example , why not take a photo and post it to the network?

Place a picture if it is not a secret. A user account can not be solved unless it gets in the eyes of one who saw exactly . These records are always original , it follows from the nature of the work . They can be museum or private . Numbers can mean the sections of the country, the owner , etc. and only then the actual serial number ...

[redbor]

Сообщение от Dmitry N. ; 2082241"

On the reverse side of the canvas inventory ( accounting ) number : VI-V- 432- 2
Who does he bear ?

Who put , this is understandable.
But what there is reason to consider this accession number ?
Is there : the notation " Inv . №"?
Rather, it is encrypted signature of the author . Quite a regular thing.

[Дмитрий Николаевич]

A. Author unknown inscriptions. That's what I want to find out. What is this? Owner's inscription inside account of the author, exhibition and auction number. That's right, in my opinion, not an asset number of the museum.
Two. The inscription printed on cardboard, presumably bright red (orange gouache).
Three. The size of the inscription: 4x18, 5 cm.
4. Can we assume that the label was affixed to the cardboard until 1941.
Five. On the back side, next to your sign is hardly the word popular, applied in pencil or charcoal, possibly a black pastel. More, no signatures, no numbers and labels on the front or the back side does not. Only scratches and water spots.
6. There are scratches and marks from water, as I understand it.
7. No expert opinion.
Eight. Photo caption below the spread.
9. Had inherited from his grandfather.
10. Can we assume that the label was affixed to the cardboard, at least until 1941.
On the back side, next to your sign is hardly the word popular, applied in pencil or charcoal, black pastel maybe, maybe "Fold" or "Fol." Earlier in this frame was sub-frame with the canvas size and illogical like the inscription on the reverse side of the canvas.

[Дмитрий Николаевич]

I only have one question.
It is best formulated Dear Dogel.

I have a simple human question: can anyone encountered this?

Attribution picture does not interest me.

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Сообщение от K-Maler

Put the photo, if it's not a secret.

This, of course, no secret.
Photo caption I've laid out.

Сообщение от K-Maler

A user account can not be solved unless it gets in the eyes of one who saw exactly.

That such a man I'm looking for.

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Сообщение от redbor; 2082681"

Who put , this is understandable.

Who ? I beg you to name or surname or company name.

Сообщение от redbor; 2082681"

But what there is reason to consider this accession number ?

In the museum business , as far as I could learn from the Internet, uses the term : inventory ( accounting ) inscription. In this particular case, you should read the inscription account .

Сообщение от redbor; 2082681 '

Is there : the notation " Inv . № "?

No, there's just written the number , as I understand accounting .

Сообщение от redbor; 2082681"

Rather, it is encrypted signature of the author . Quite a regular thing.

Do you ever came across like an encrypted signature of the author . Of course exactly the same can not be, it is unique. And something like III-IV- 138- 1 or I-VII-417-1 never seen ?

[sergey7]

... To go from pillar to pillar III IV 138 steps; dig deep into one (?) ...

[Дмитрий Николаевич]

I certainly interesting and the author of the picture, but as a picture with this number was not alone and all had a similar line, the first thing I'm interested in what united them all - auction or exhibition.

[Konstantin]

... to go from pillar to pillar III IV 138 steps; dig deep into one ( ?) ...

dig deep into the one - meter ?

Very informative talk, which is why there are rules and that's why I asked you to follow them. Posted a photo for a long time already received a response.
But no.
If you are satisfied with this level of response , then we , the administration does not. If you do not add pictures tomorrow to 12-00 post will be deleted. Otherwise, and will dig deep into one meter until you're blue .