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[Николай Испания]

Сообщение от Toinen

ideal location - in the opening day of Ishmael

Do you own a point and there you put my masterpieces next to his, or help with a specific place?

[qwerty]

Nicholas Spain, you will rest against in vain : the examination of Malevich's Fund - this is proof of fraud , over 20 years of collecting I have not seen any of this work with the expertise of the fund , and he created was , apparently , it was for the purpose of confirming nepodtverzhdaemogo . Among the experts, this fund has no one with an unblemished reputation . The same can be said about Madame railings, although perhaps it is simply not in the subject line . A Picasso- made ​​- just a copy of the varying degrees of similarity with the well-known works.

[Николай Испания]

qwerty, your position is interesting, I delivered to its owners pictures. In your experience, which to date are available at the examination and whose opinions count in question the authenticity of the same Popova, Malevich, if any fund, nor Madame railings, or pigment analysis (as long as I do not have a copy of the certificate I have not pointed out as the owners claim is made DRES. JAGERS) are not evidence.

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Сообщение от qwerty; 2037201"

and Picasso-made - just a copy of the varying degrees of similarity with the well-known works.

That's right, the whole world a mess everywhere all the hype and copy each other. I'm not suggesting you buy blind for 300 € three paintings wholesale and free shipping. I put information on the forum in the hope, if not to find a potential buyer, having heard the opinions of experts who are on the forum know where to start and who to offer, in addition to Christie's, Sotheby's and similar auction houses. Perhaps on the forum have art dealers operating on the Spanish artist and ready to consider our proposals, if not by Picasso (because the price of one of the exhibited paintings by 2 ml. The other is 25 ml. Is, or for other reasons), then gave his paintings are not less known and more affordable price range. Or, to order the dealer to find other artists, whose paintings are in Spain.
But, unfortunately I hear where the indirect and direct where and fraud charges.

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от Nicholas Spain; 2036841"

young sleeping narcissus, the work of Salvador Dali 120 x 120 oil is cataloged in a tree for Descharnes n º 1518,

Nicholas Spain, it is no secret that this (or the same), the picture was exhibited at an auction in Zurich Germann Auction in May 2011. An accurate description is:
 

Beschreibung:
 Dalí Salvador 1904 - 1989 E Mehr >> Sleeping Young Narcissus, 1980 Öl auf Holz. H 1200 mm B 1200 mm. Signiert. Literatur: Robert Descharnes, Gilles Néret. Salvador Dalí, The Paintings, Volume II 1946 - 1989. Köln, Benedikt Taschen Verlag, 1994. Nr. 1518, Seite 679, Farbabbildung; Heft. Avantgarde International, English Edition. London, 1980. Seite 16, Farbabbildung. Anmerkung: Das Werk ist im Archiv von Robert Descharnes unter der Nummer h0733_1980 registriert. CHF 300,000 - 350,000. (USD 330 000 - 380000)

The painting, lot number 33 did not find a buyer. But her image is often found on the Internet. You can even order a replica of using this source here:

 http://www.russianpaintings.net/russ...thor=973&p=468

Why this picture is not sold on Germann, not paramount auction? After all, the work of Dali, with a rate of 1 meter 20 cm to 1 meter 20 cm for the lower estimate, and then back, which is usually 20%of the bottom bracket, (275 thousand dollars) would buy a lot.

Of course, I understand that in the "for sale", we speak out about the authenticity. But, I want to see that you offer an unprecedented bouquet of works first-world levels of artists. After all, someone you trusted them, is not it?
I would like to add in response to your words:

Сообщение от Nicholas Spain; 2035851"

Due to the economic crisis in Europe and particularly in Spain, many sell works of art from their private collections.

Those who owned paintings by such authors are not afraid of any crises. On the contrary, the economic crisis, they multiply their fortunes.

Therefore, this topic causes many skepticism and suspicion. As the British say: "Too good to be true"

P.S. You can ask the owners to provide pictures pictures pictures reverse side with the existing labels, tags, labels and other attributes? Thank you.

Сообщение от Nicholas Spain; 2037221"

And yet, unfortunately I hear where the indirect and direct where and fraud charges.

No, no, this you No one accuses. Just here it is necessary to understand and help you with your question.

[Николай Испания]

OlegTsi, I am very glad that you have withdrawn with interest on my subject, and your citation is obvious that you are a professional and your opinion is heard, and through you to this theme look more participants.
But back to our topic:

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2037271"

Nicholas Spain, it is no secret that this (or the same), the picture was exhibited at an auction in Zurich Germann Auction in May 2011. A precise description of such

This proves that this pattern exists, it is podlednikom (if no one doubts the auction house experts Germann Auction) and really put up for sale. I honestly did not know that the picture was exhibited at the auction, apparently I did not feel the need to communicate and it gave me an inflated price, although the sentence was two pictures (picture the second I did not put but I can fix). But thanks to you now able to squeeze them a bit, and other suggestions, thanks.

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2037271"

picture of a lot number 33 did not find a buyer.

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2037271"

Why does this picture is not sold on Germann, not paramount auction? After all, the work of Dali, with a rate of 1 meter 20 cm to 1 meter 20 cm for the lower estimate, and then back, which is usually 20%of the bottom bracket, (275 thousand dollars) would buy a lot.

This question is difficult for me to answer, nor could anyone not like, can not it's time, the buyer can wait, can not do an auction at Christie's primary or Sotheby's would have more success.

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2037271"

But her image is often found on the Internet. You can even order a replica of using this source here:

http://www.russianpaintings.net/russ...thor=973&p=468

The images of many paintings found on the Internet and most probably a copy of the order. At this site 66 pages with different pictures of not only this, perhaps this is due to the popularity of Dali and another proof of the existence of this picture, after all agree is stupid copy of unknown artists and non-existent film. Maybe I do not understand it correctly quotes, correct, if not difficult.

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2037271"

I would like to add in response to your words:
Quote:
Posted by Nicholas Spain View Post
Due to the economic crisis in Europe and particularly in Spain, many sell their works of art from private collections.
Those who owned paintings by such authors are not afraid of any crises. On the contrary, the economic crisis, they multiply their fortunes.

Therefore, this topic causes many skepticism and suspicion. As the British say: "Too good to be true"

I'm not saying that all rushed en masse will get rid of the collections, even partially agree with you that many of the crises in the state are doing, and you just look around, someone multiplies, and whose share it! Maybe I'm wrong but most of the rich by the ruin of others. This retreat, roll forward. Now on the subject, a little background. I am in Spain since 2000 and have seen many became rich on real estate and some of these people invested in the picture. It's no secret that in Spain from the crisis it was very badly damaged the building sector and the people who have this business as a major, trying to support him afloat through other means (who sell paintings, antiques who is who luxuries bought in good times), that such people are now very profitable to buy. That's where we come to the main question of interest to many participants of the forum:

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2037271"

Of course, I understand that in the "for sale", we speak out about the authenticity. But, I want to see that you offer an unprecedented bouquet of works first-world levels of artists. Someone you trusted them.

I worked as a consultant on issues related to Spain for Russian speaking clients (issues of residence, investments, buying real estate, etc.), and one of these pictures I was asked to sell one of the builders, which I helped with the translation. That something like this, unfortunately I have no experience selling paintings, so I went to see you on the forum, as they say knowledge and experience cherpnut if you are of course applicable.

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OlegTsi,

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2037271"

P.S. You can ask the owners to provide pictures pictures pictures reverse side with the existing labels, tags, labels and other attributes ? Thank you .

I will try within the next week to get photos of paintings from all sides, yet there are any nuances or subtleties of which I have to ask, please write . Particularly interested in the subtleties of Popova , you spoke about this picture , do not consider a work to view my comment . Just the picture offered to people, and do not want to look like a fraud frankly evaporated certified copy of a well , because we are not talking about 100 €.
In advance thank you.

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OlegTsi,

Сообщение от "OlegTsi; 2037271 '

No, no, in that no one blames you.
Just here it is necessary to understand and help you with your question.

During this special thank you.

[John Preston]

Сообщение от Nicholas Spain , 2037481

, and one of these pictures I have asked to sell one of the builders, which I helped with the translation.

Sounds strange , is not it ? If not unconvincing and naive ...

A feeling that you just want to use , so to speak "in a simpleton ."

Typically, such work should have a clear provenance , which can be traced back to the author ...

[Николай Испания]

John Preston,

Сообщение от John Preston; 2037561"

strange sounds , is not it ? If you do not say, unconvincing and naive ...

possibly

Сообщение от John Preston; 2037561"

It seems that you just want to use , so to speak "in a simpleton ".

time will tell

Сообщение от John Preston; 2037561"

Usually, such work should have a clear provenance , which can be traced back to the author ...

and though I initially said that all personal details , only now realized I do not possess all the information to the author of the information I have not yet, but I think by clicking the link above to fill the gaps , above all asking essentially , thank you.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Nicholas Spain; 2037181"

I enclose a copy of the first pages of examinations made ​​on this picture. And the right of these experts believe it or not, but if not then how else to confirm the authenticity of paintings.

"Expert" Jafarov SG has become a household name ....
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Here is what the well-known collector of this personage ...
"I believe that we should not hesitate to name names - says Peter Aven, - That the experts , or THG Valyaeva Lomize . He trusts few people . There are people who like art historian Svetlana Jafarova , it is really professional and knowledgeable woman, deliberately embarked on the path of selling fakes. .. "

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от Nicholas Spain; 2036921"

take a picture of Retrato de Paloma, the extreme right in the first message, the picture that I attach (even tried to indicate with arrows), we can see the master, Pablo Picasso painting Retrato de Paloma, which is not " shine, "may simply shot in black and white, very well, and a girl.

I took a photo of the family of Picasso and Zoom Paloma. Immediately thrown into the eyes of some razbezhnosti. Especially right eyebrow Paloma. In a family photo outside the eyebrow starts and turns his eyes to the nose. On your picture a short eyebrow, the nose does not go. The left eyebrow on the original - a raised arch, on your - a flat, the distance between the eye and the eyebrow is much narrower than the original.
Ribbon and bow knot on his head are completely different, the lines and contours are different, and feels that the sheer scale of the person on the other. And this despite the fact that we compare with larger B /W photography.

Personally, I can say that the original picture on the photo and your family - these are different pictures.

My guess is that the portrait of Paloma is a family saving itself Paloma and never sold.
Although the image of your picture is already walking on the internet from 2009 to 2010, when for the first time she appeared on the show in Heather James Fine Art Gallery, in Palm Desert, California. Before that she had not met anywhere else.
 

This could serve to show the so-called. "Legalization" of unauthorized copies.

Сообщение от Nicholas Spain; 2037481"

This proves that this pattern exists, it is podlednikom (if no one doubts the auction house experts Germann Auction) and really put up for sale.

The emergence of art in exhibitions and auctions does not confirm their authenticity.

Please, who will notice more differences in these pictures, write messages.

Photo 3 - I removed the color.

[Sobiratel]

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2037271"

Those who owned paintings by such authors are not afraid of any crises . On the contrary, the economic crisis , they multiply their wealth .

more often that way ...

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Сообщение от Nicholas Spain; 2037481"

It's no secret that in Spain from the crisis it was very badly damaged the building sector and the people who have this business as a major , trying to support him afloat through other means (who sells paintings who antiques, luxury items who bought in good times )

so, for all of Spain has just begun ....

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Сообщение от John Preston; 2037561"

It seems that you just want to use , so to speak "on the simpleton "

That's because many Spaniards , Italians consider Russia as suckers with bags of money , to whom everything is possible vparit triple the price )) ... your opponent may well be the most simple to use ....