The artist in the art market - the criteria for participation

[I-V]

Сообщение от fabosch; 1952241"

What 's stopping you , for example, discuss the notorious Lozhkina, I can not understand ?

It is not a Lozhkin, and that to me any author fairly regularly sells his works is a member of the art market . It was so in my opinion was (and is ) Lozhkin . His rejection of "art market" Lozhkina , KS me stumped , I admit it . Now that's not rest until I find out what arguments may be considered acceptable for this kind of verdict .

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от IV

Now that's not rest until I find out what arguments may be considered acceptable for this kind of verdict.

No.

Everyone has their arguments to the "pros" and "against."

[Art-Galera]

pardon the platitude , but if we go by the definition of " art market ", ie The first and main criterion has already been set - a kind of art and commercial history of this artist. in other cases , it can certainly be a party , for example, the art process, the art scene , etc., etc. is which wants to be a definite choice.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1952211"

hudozhetvennye also sell cards , buy them a market , they collect and sell at auction

I remember makes it possible for this " artistic souvenir ," as was fashionable in the 70- 80s " decorate " the home and chased giplovymi masks painted brown.
Tepe people grew up aesthetically and for the same money hangs in the house , as it were painted with oil even "pictures" - someone " birch - pine " and who knew Van Gogh , Dali, Klimt and some modernist delights.

[iside]

Сообщение от IV; 1951531"

is every artist who sells his art work can be considered a party of the art market?

If not, what are the criteria by which an artist can still be considered a party of the art market? And whether they do?

IV, so you ask a question, and then write your answer:

Сообщение от IV; 1952271"

for me, any writer quite regularly sells his works is a member of the art market

ie You have everything for yourself and decide what you want is someone to persuade you? Sorry, but this is very ungrateful, and somehow I'm even afraid to take it >
How to talk about it implies some theoretical knowledge of what the art market, what are the objectives which the participants, how it operates and is based on this will be clear who can be, and who does not and why.

Сообщение от fabosch; 1952241"

In my view, the objective does not exist.
If only because it is impossible to objectively determine which argument is the objective

There is absolutely precise criteria about who - yes, and who - no, they intuitively know all the participants, if I wrote them, would you fabosch agreed with me, as well as others.

[Pavel]

I'm sorry. Lozhkin that your cousin ? Why such a PR? Sale - let sold. COP considers that must be sold only to those whom he deems worthy, I believe that those whom I consider worthy. And here the market? This market should determine who is who. No normal trade here and get it.
I have seen many "unique" patterns and in the flats and in the trash. It does not add to the prestige , but there are questions and all . If it is still expensive , it's stupidity . Vypendrivanie is usually a lack of education.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от iside; 1952801"

There is absolutely precise criteria about who - yes, but who - no ... If I wrote them ...

And write!
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Сообщение от Pavel; 1952881"

COP believes that should be sold only to those whom he considers worthy

Let all sold and bought everything .
But it does not portray all the pictures and selling can be called artists, and not all sold Mohni called art , because , " Art and Souvenirs " for gifts - gift of flowers , saying to himself, " to thee, my God, that worthless to us ".

[iside]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1952961"

So write !

Cyril Syzran, I did for the promotion of independence and I think that would be better if IV he tries to understand, so this knowledge will be valued above them - that he was properly started :

Сообщение от IV; 1951541 "

However, when I began searching for evidence of his involvement in an art- market process , we did not find anything (which , I confess, surprised me )

another couple of steps and everything will be clear, provided, of course , if it would not be in the wrong direction down "various members boltologicheskie art market" >

[fabosch]

Сообщение от iside

There is absolutely precise criteria about who - yes, and who - no, they intuitively know all the participants , if I wrote them , would you fabosch agreed with me , as well as others .

In your statement lies a contradiction.
If they are easy to write , then the participants would know not intuitive, but just from memory.
At that time and again that they know it intuitively, and they have every bit of their own, that is somewhat different from that of another. And there is no clear boundary with which to " all parties" agreed that there is simply no .
At least based on the simple fact that it is impossible to determine exactly who is a party and who is - no.
It's kind of a paradox about the egg and chicken.
Another thing is that this ambiguity to anyone ( except IV > > >) does not prevent to live and work in the same art market.

[I-V]

Сообщение от fabosch

Another thing is that this ambiguity to anyone (except IV) does not prevent to live and work in the same art market.

Well, I sort of begin to understand that there has been - clear paradox.
Already something soon go on to live and work >