Nonconformists in Miami

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Pavel; 1867491"

they are secondary, similar to one another , and another for those who have seen in magazines .

Give specific examples where the first row of non-conformists alike .
Term - until tomorrow , if not back up his words with pictures - Bunn 1 month for flooding.
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[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Pavel

You know me and then it was difficult to exposing

When the 'if'?

Bulldozer took 9.15 1974, and you Stroganovka only 80, he graduated from what exhibitions and in the 85th already begun restructuring, lifted all the restrictions and opened the border.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Pavel; 1867491"

I'm telling you they are secondary, similar to one another , and another for those who have seen in magazines. Not original. They had been deceived and strangers shopping attention. We must not imitate but to learn and creatively recycle .

Discussed and that there is a " secondary " and indeed it is ... possible , without it was not enough. It is impossible also to deny that any of the two " scoops " to be " first".
Paul is not right that they " look alike ", but the repetition of the avant-garde techniques first is the case.

[манна]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Not a bad selection .
There, by the way , and today said Eugene Rukhin, and recently aforementioned Alexander Sitnikov and his wife Olga Bulgakov .

Сообщение от Alex Sander

Super- operation. But this is understandable, yet I collection of Dodge ... There's a lot more . >

On 2 of Rukhin , 268 and 269 lots on the site are in red. Collection from 242 to 276 lots. I myself am on the third day Nesterov look .... and I do not know ... but of course with authority can not say anything ... so .. thinking out loud .

[Алек Сандер]

Well , the red LED experts assign the copyright to many works. On this is not always necessary to pay attention . As far as these works Rukhin , real hard to find. First , a collection of Dodge, who bought all their stuff , when there was no fraud ( not your second collection Glezer ), well and secondly , both pictures were published in the album, which was responsible for the Heritage Foundation Rukhin. So impeccable provenance . And the work are excellent.

In general, many pictures of Dodge Rukhin. He bought directly from the artist , and immediately took out , back in the seventies.

[Михалыч]

I wonder how much goes Esipovich Ali poster.

[манна]

Сообщение от [QUOTE

Alec Sander ; 1877821 ] Well , the red LED experts assign the copyright to many works. On this is not always necessary to pay attention . As far as these works Rukhin , real hard to find. First , a collection of Dodge, who bought all their stuff , when there was no fraud ( not your second collection Glezer ), well and secondly , both pictures were published in the album, which was responsible for the Heritage Foundation Rukhin. So impeccable provenance . And excellent work .[/

"In this is not always necessary to pay attention . " - That this statement does not agree to your . Pay attention .. and we must always do ( buy ) it is natural to rely on themselves and their knowledge. ( for example, that they appear in the album) . Generally Rukhin totally not my "hero." Krasnopevtseva saw published. About the Dodge I know, but you will agree , so many crooks around > >, admixed to the Dodge Glaser ( second collection ) or Glazer and voila! Incidentally, both Rukhin sold, 22 and 24 thousand

Сообщение от Mihalich ; 1877831"

I wonder how much goes Esipovich Ali poster .

Do not leave.

[fross]

Сообщение от Alex Sander

Well , the red LED experts assign the copyright to many works. On this is not always necessary to pay attention . As far as these works Rukhin , real hard to find. First , a collection of Dodge, who bought all their stuff , when there was no fraud ( not your second collection Glezer ), well and secondly , both pictures were published in the album, which was responsible for the Heritage Foundation Rukhin. So impeccable provenance . And the work are excellent.

In general, many pictures of Dodge Rukhin. He bought directly from the artist , and immediately took out , even in the seventies .

And how do we know what works from the collection of Dodge ? As far as I know the collection was transferred to the University without the right to sell. Could be wrong, but at least some of what I saw, and some of the work sold in galleries in the U.S. until recently.

[манна]

Here I am about the same.
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[Алек Сандер]

Сообщение от fross

And how do we know what works from the collection of Dodge? As far as I know the collection was transferred to the University without the right to sell. Could be wrong, but at least some of what I saw, and some of the work sold in galleries in the U.S. until recently.

Well, first, a whole department devoted to this auction is a collection of Dodge, but not built with the world on a string, that could cause to doubt the provenance. You do not doubt that there Krasnopevtsev? If still in doubt, read the name of a specialist advisor - Alla Rosenfeld. If you do not know, then I'll explain: she has long worked with the Dodge, even wrote a book with him, more than that is almost the major Western expert on Russian non-conformist. And every collection of Dodge she knows firsthand. Secondly, as I said, these papers have been published in the album Rukhin, which was published with the assistance of the fund Rukhin. And this album is also written that the two works belong to the dojo. Oh fund something you can believe any. And thirdly, and who told you that Dodge gave the entire collection? Vaughn, Kostaki also bequeathed his collection to the museum. What made things out of it at last, "Christie" - "Sotheby's"?

Based on the foregoing, Rukhin with such a reinforced concrete provenance was sold for a mere penny. And what can I do if the experts did not consider the site of all these factors?

2 manna

You very rightly noted: first of all must rely on their knowledge.