Продам: "Palmistry" Gudiashvili

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Сообщение от georgian_art

Please read carefully the text!

Carefully read the "text", but the result of your communication with the auction Shapiro did not see it.

Apparently, this did not reach me, eluded my attention as I did not try to find it.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

I have read carefully the "text" , but the result of your communication with the auction Shapiro did not see it .
Apparently, this did not reach me , eluded my attention as I did not try to find it .

Of my text : " ... the work Gudiashvili " (lots 403 and 404) ... seems remote examination of Irina Dzuttsevoy . Edakii expert psychic ! ".
Further: " To my knowledge , the authenticity of these paintings has been confirmed by one expert remotely from Paris ."
This is the result of my communication with the auction Shapiro, this information is not attributing to lots of Lado Gudiashvili (? ) In the catalog to trading on November 19.

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georgian_art, understand now, thanks.

I slowpoke, I confess, and I was somewhat misled about it "it seems" and "I know" .

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

georgian_art, understand now, thanks.

I slowpoke, I confess, and I was somewhat misled about it "it seems" and "I know" .

And thanks for heated debate!

[uriart]

georgian_art, You are right doing, raised the topic of fakes in Shapiro.
He simply brazenly puts such things falshaka number and does not want to take any responsibility for what sells.
And such work is " supported" by some opdpisyami at the speed of all kinds of labels, pictures, or on the small exhibitions of American shows.
And all this scum offer Russian customers.
Mr. Shapiro !
Well, you left in my America, and sit there and enjoy the American way of life!
So can not stay away! Russian buyer must trotted for extortion of money by any means.
With your knowledge and approach to work, you are only doing his anti-advertising , put up for auction bullshit !
Do not drain and you do not understand it ?

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Сообщение от uriart

must be the Russian purchaser trotted for extortion of money by any means.

A nelly auction house Shapiro is not in America?

Like in New York, he is not in Moscow.
 
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[georgian_art]

But as they hit the U.S.? From what country? If out of Georgia, which is likely, in what way? Was it an export permit from the department for the export of cultural property? If the pictures were in the states of Russia, which is also possible, for legal export permit must be similar? If I'm wrong, correct me? If such references exist, then why are they hiding? I assure you that such a paper on the work of the Soviet period Lado Davidovich can be obtained by passing a certain procedure.
   
Why the lack of information from the department for the export of a cult. values ​​pushes me to think that these pictures - not the originals? I find it hard to believe that these seller paintings, he lived in Russia or Georgia does not know what to export cultural property without permission can not be. In Georgia, for example, the export of works of art without the paper from the Ministry of Culture is a punishable act. Sellers of questionable pictures probably know this, but do not apply to the Ministry of Culture, for the reason that there fake not suffer ...
 If these two pictures was an export permit, I will take my words back and apologize to the sellers and Eugene Shapiro!

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Probably need to clarify that a certificate from the Department of exportation of cultural property can be used by both expert assessment picture because it contains the attribution of the object ( in Georgia is engaged in the commission of art historians , working under contract with the Ministry of Culture). This document is issued in the official language and is still in customs, but you can make a copy of this information , translate it into the language of the importing country and notarize ....

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Сообщение от georgian_art; 1837151 "

If these two pictures was an export permit , I will take my words back and apologize to the sellers and Eugene Shapiro !

Well, you really like something from one extreme to rush .
For example, permission to export Russian Rosohrankultary k, can not be regarded as analogous to an expert opinion , that is used . itself an expert opinion on which this permit and issue remains in Rosokhrankultura . I 'm not talking about the export certificate , issued by an object, not an expert on KC.

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We are after all talking about the paintings Gudiashvili, which in Georgia are undoubtedly cultural value. Of course, the art commission , which will issue its recommendation on your picture , does not carry out technological expertise , but the results of the study is sure to be the subject of attribution . And the attribution falls short of help that you get in the department of exportation. Another thing is whether this is a brief authoritative attribution ? I will say this : if they include the work of Levitan , probably very few people will believe what they write there . But in the Soviet period in his Gudiashvili they know a lot and , as I wrote in my earlier post, there is a rich comparative material ...

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Сообщение от georgian_art

are in Georgian are undoubtedly cultural value.

I mean the order of the export from Georgia ky do not know.

But the work of Russian export Gudiashvili with a resolution of the problem: the procedure of its receipt is not complicated, I have traversed many times, the question, as they say, technical.