Art auctions - a measure of artistic talent?

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Сообщение от artcol

would argue?
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I will not, if you give an example of such exhibitions "washi Doe."

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Musicians to you and come to the country, it is their job - the music to perform.

Sotheby's also does not stand still, traveling to developing countries, where there are easy money, they have "buyers" are few and little

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Musicians to you and come to the country , it is their job - to perform the music .

If the fee exceeds the reputational costs.
For the status of the hall /event /site price tag will be lower to give - above. But this is not an axiom , it may happen - and everything will turn . Revolution! And zaverte ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran; 1848511"

For me it is one level of the enterprise.

Cyril Syzran, the difference still exists between La Scala and Sotheby's and I can not agree that this is an enterprise level. Sotheby's auction house is the main objective is profit, and it was from the very beginning of its founding to the present day. At La Scala is a different story is not commercial, academic and even a museum there.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran; 1848511"

OK, is it possible to organize an exhibition by the promoter Vasya Pupkin in TG at Lavrushenskom or timing?

Yes, I can give you an example: as luck would have slipped out of my head the name of the Italian artist, who had an exhibition at the Russian Museum is not so long ago - it prints to the printer (which he is at home) my pictures (mostly still lifes) and Then they are painted and provides for his brilliant skills. In Italy, everyone knows about it and places it in the grave can not see and you will not hear about it. And in Russia, wrote about him, it's a new Caravaggio. The artist, this is certainly not Vasya Pupkin, some fame still is, but it's more like a plan Safronov.

About remembered the name - Luciano Ventrone.

Then there was the exhibition of Italian artists recently, either in the Tretyakov Gallery, or anywhere else - too lazy to look for - all names are also some quite unknown >

So the promoter - is an important figure >

[Victor_art]

Art Auctions - a measure of artistic talent?Gladys Schmitt. "Rembrandt." Novel-biography.

Now, finally feeling that he is recovering, the artist was no longer able to closely monitor the bids and noted only a few. Tesselshade Fisher, heeding the advice of Flink and background Zandrarta, laid out one hundred florins for the most fashionable of the paintings - still life nauseous, depicting a bunch of dead animals: deer, swans, grouse and dove, suspended against the backdrop of the ancient altar, surmounted by a bust of the emperor and decorated with cupids thick sentimental person, that all this carnage seemed doubly hideous. A gentleman in a beaver hat with feathers gave sixty florins a barren landscape autumn, after making sure that the surface of the picture rather smoothed. Young married couple bought for fifty florins a portrait of listless girl that calf eyes beheld a young man, strum a poorly drawn lute. Someone has spent eighty florins for painting of goldfinch in a cage decorated with tassels. Rembrandt had almost decided to leave - it is necessary to pay for the furniture - and started to think what else to say to young people, except for a brief "good-bye!", When the auctioneer announced that it now trades will be started up with a few drawings, and artist, allowing himself to undo button on the collar, he decided to condemn himself for half an hour stay in the stifling atmosphere.

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- said - said Philips Koninck - that one of these drawings - the work Segersa.
- Segersa?
Rembrandt suddenly seemed to him that now he sees not the product of the deceased and obesslavlennogo artist, and he himself, a man whose wife and children die of hunger, who sold their clothes and linens, to raise money on fruitless and crazy experiments to create color prints; someone worldly failure and self-loathing brought to drunkenness, and who got drunk and plunged from the balcony into the black abyss of rest, cutting his skull on the cobblestones and sprayed on her brain, which is simmered for so many years wasted and could find no way out. - Oh yes! - Checked himself auctioneer. - Here's another great save image, the work of Hercules Segersa, whose scandalous life, ladies and gentlemen, in itself serve to your guests an endless topic of conversation in the dull evening.
With these words he stepped forward and showed the audience an oblong piece of paper, a little more writing, which, despite its small size, was clearly visible from the back seat and pulling them out of bulky stationary body artist exclamation sounded like he had hoped, no louder than a sigh . Figure portrayed ships that with folded sails on masts stand at the pier, and, in fact, was only a violent plexus of verticals and horizontals, made with hard hard. And yet there was something more: in these few lines of solid guessed fused into a single desperate courage of sailors and desperate courage of Hercules Segersa. Glaring eyes in the picture, Rembrandt felt on his greedy face perspiring someone's eyes - malevolent, sharp look Zandrarta background. German guttural voice began trading.
- Four florins, - he suggested.
- Four florins for Segersa! - Sadly whispered Koninck. He pulled out his wallet, emptied its contents into his hand and quickly counted the coins.
- Eleven - loudly announced he decided to risk everything he had. - I give you eleven.
- Twelve - dropped Zandrart background, and turning to Tesselshade Fisher explained that the bid up and then can only idiot: The figure is nothing but lines - from the top down, side to side. He works out of the worst Segersa, and Segers, and in his best things are not too good.
No, such an insult could not be transferred. German alluded to his own disgrace, bankruptcy, his helplessness, he made it clear that in his pocket is empty van Rijn. Clearly aware of how it looks now - a man with a clunky aging face red with rage and shiny with sweat, Rembrandt leaning on the shoulder of a young Koninck and rose heavily from the bench.
- Twenty-five florins, - he said. - Even if the picture is not worth the money, and he them, of course, is, I still would give a price to defend the honor of the artist.
- Twenty-five florins? - Asked the auctioneer.
- Yes. I'll pay cash.
Rembrandt with such force dropped a purse on a bench, that the coins were lying in it, rang loudly. The Italian looked at him as if the maestro was crazy. Background Zandrart snorted and shrugged, Go-Wart Flink erupted Tesselshade Fisher threw his plump hands. But that was before them, Rembrandt, when raised to him gaunt face of a young Koninck and his big eyes said it would never have dared to utter discreet lips: "I will not forget this - and you - until the end of my days!"
- Who will? - Asked the auctioneer. - Do you want to Nabavi, Herr von Zandrart?
- I? - Said the German. - No, I'm not a fool.
- Excellent. So, ladies and gentlemen, the true figure of Hercules Segersa for the amount of twenty-five florins - a very generous offer, making the honor as an artist and the buyer - becomes the property of the renowned master Rembrandt van Rijn.
Hearing the resounding beats in the heart of the chest, Rembrandt, as if in a fog, somehow got to the place where dust tossed in an oblique ray of the sun, emptied his wallet and paid. But even before he laid out last florin, his triumphant mood has dissipated: amazingly solid line Segersa hide from him the other images - the mournful eyes, he saw Hendrick, Titus opened his mouth, windows without curtains, shabby chairs and a meager dinner. By his throat nausea went up, the more relaxed, that the artist did not understand how - bodily or spiritual - it is due to illness. He had to sit on the front bench and pretend that it eats through the eyes of his purchase, when in fact it was busy at the moment only one - trying to draw more air into the chest, in which there was something strange, like a rib going in and , squeezing her, blocked access to the breath. Whatever the reason for this malaise, it took a minute, but Rembrandt felt that he would get almost forces doplestis home, and when the two young witnesses of his folly by stopping the artist at the door, inquired whether he would not honor them to drink with them mug of beer, he did not find any words to consent or reasonable reasons for refusal and only shook his head yes and smiled faintly silly.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 1848471"

Here, for example , the promoter will be able to push through lack of talent on the lead role in an opera production of , say , La Scala or the Metropolitan Opera, Royal Opera in Stockholm or Berlin Staatsoper?

A few days ago, driving a big prospect read the poster. Dima Bilan, is lead singer and play up to the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, at once reminded of our friend who put in monakko . I am not talking of course about the very mediocrity .

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Сообщение от mihailovoh; 1848391"

Added a more explicit sign - participation in exhibitions leading muzeev.a whom there would be no view of the TG priglashayut.imeyu Pushkin Russian ....

If we talk about our art , if the artist's works are in museums and galleries such as the Tretyakov Gallery, Pushkin , Russian Museum, Kiev Museum of Russian Art, preferably all at once , which were acquired prior to the collapse of these museums will SSSR.Eto and measure talent. I'm not saying that after 1980 there fell untalented , just to avoid mistakes . In 90 years there could get different characters , as in all spheres , whether it be art , politics, culture and so on.

Сообщение от will; 1848051"

I wish ( a ) we now have no channel "Culture "

Now it is no longer the channel , which was earlier , but still in this version yet go.

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Сообщение от Samvel

I'm not saying that after 1980 there fell untalented , just to avoid mistakes . In 90 years there could get different characters , as in all spheres ,

And that , until 1980 only got talent? 10 percent can be easily swept away . But there were also representatives of movements and epohi.Voobsche Tretyakov Gallery has long been safe to rename the historic ...

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Сообщение от Peter

Percent 10 can be easily swept away.

In your opinion, perhaps, but there are other, apparently, the view was yes, and do not remember "to 1980", then the money is not solved, but we are talking about the current situation and possibilities of the promoter.

[mihailovoh]

Peter,
"And what, until 1980 only got talent? Interest 10 can be easily swept away . But there were also representatives of movements and periods "
Get a mozhno.a shown in ekspozitsiyah.kak ...?
artcol
" There and recognized artists that are not able to get - because it's Olympus , the competition is very serious. "
(No advertising dopolniteleoy personality). Right now, my favorite artist ...
presented and GTG.i Pushkinskoi.i Russian ... and invite to the exhibition there is not a popular or " Commercial " ... Just , a real talent.
And Dima Bielany come and remember their uhodyat.kto .
PS Another interesting nablyudenie.Popast a good collection of " periphery ". Doma.a not thousands of miles away , can really talented hudozhnik.tk . collect or svomh or "fashionable"