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Язык оригинала: Русский #11 |
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1) What is the artist? (if not secret) 2) How do I find? Has made an evaluation? Or at the peephole. Then out after the examination and what the drama played out. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #12 |
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Vladimir,
Yes, Vladimir, you are understood correctly, one hundred works - seventy false. Our statistics fabrications constantly varies from 50 to 70 percent. True, there is one thing but we usually have a problem in advance of the thing or the contrary, those that believe. Eugene, Statistics for the past few months. Mashkov, Malevich, Saryan, Roerich our rare guests and statistics on them mostly deplorable, unfortunately. |
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| Этот пользователь сказал Спасибо ACG за это полезное сообщение: | Vladimir (27.06.2008) |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #14 |
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ACG, Denis E., as well as graphics things? Are there any technologies that give dating? Generally, in principle, the establishment of such technology possible?
And read about the progress in nuclear dating methods: http://www.artinvestment.ru/news/art...forgeries.html Can you comment? In fact, working? Then, after all, and graphics can clarify? |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #15 |
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Vladimir,
Dear Vladimir, With more complex graphics, but if it does not "pencil on paper", then all is not lost. Since I can argue and say that the paper can be dated. Of course you can, but with the same ease you can buy old paper on the flea, were precedents when selling whole albums, in which famous artists have been drawn troika couple of tracks, the remaining sheets are clean, quite in a position to creative research. Graphic dates as well as painting, it also has pigment and binder. Technologies have existed for more than five years and every year improving. Regarding nuclear dating, from my point of view, any way to have the right to life, especially if it is scientifically justified. But there has long been more accurate and simple methods of dating. Actually dating to the binder. Recent developments make it possible to divide the periods of dating is not up to 45 years and after. And at ten, twenty, fifty, seventy and one hundred. And with the Russian avant-garde, generally there is no problem, it is determined by the technology easy enough, with the same Russian Museum, a few years ago bought the infrared spectrometer, which allows you to explore and to date organic pigments, I am not talking about your humble servant. Quote from the article: "Falsifiers well have learned to forge a signature, artificially grow old canvases and paints to create, by their chemical composition are indistinguishable from those that were made at the beginning of the century ..." and this statement from any engineer, surely trigger a smile. Movies they had seen, perhaps, with Pierce Brosnan :-) |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #16 |
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ACG, so what happens existing technologies enable us to determine the date of creation of any oil with an error of /- 5 years? If so, then why Sun still exists a number of fakes?
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Язык оригинала: Русский #17 |
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As I told the specialists - Assessment in /- five years - looks highly optimistic.
It depends on storage conditions. - If painting on canvas, hung in the museum conditions (humidity, temperature, light) - will be one result. - If it is hung over the battery or the sun, it is a different result. And the difference can be decent. I called the number - as much in 50 years. Us listen to ACG. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #18 |
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Possibility of precise dating depends on the composition of materials. Can not summarily say that can be dated all. But most of the materials can be dated with an accuracy of /- 10 years. Besides it, many authors are reference base.
A fake will exist. Get rid of the fakes, it's like to build communism - is impossible. There are technologies, there are organizations, but sometimes, due to various reasons there is no desire or need to use them. Costs of the free market. [color="# 666686"]Added after 9 minutes[/color] Konstantin, Clearly, the storage conditions affect the condition of the subject, the figure 50 years, apparently, you were voiced in terms of the availability of natural cracelures. Effect of storage conditions on physico-chemical parameters of oil can be regarded as a minimal error in dating, and this error can give more, chemical action, rather than physical. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #19 |
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I am no expert and I say, hearsay, and therefore all the more interesting is another opinion.
I just about changing the properties of "connecting", depending on storage conditions, was told. |
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Язык оригинала: Русский #20 |
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ACG, a good day, indeed: can "get lost" dating binder in painting from poor storage conditions (ie when the physical impact of class "low moisture direct sunlight)?
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