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Старый 30.09.2011, 12:40 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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On this occasion, EX - Glavred magazine " Russian Life " wrote

Open letter to the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia, Kirill.

Your Holiness!

Clean , please back in box Chairman of the Synodal Department of the Moscow Patriarchate for Church and Society Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin.
This gentleman in his post continues the tradition is not so much of his great namesake (although the profession they have, undoubtedly , the total ) as Vladimir Zhirinovsky , the so-called father of John and the late Roman Okhlobystin Trachtenberg .
We all love a good joke, but mocking and samopiar this person creates an entirely false impression of the Russian Orthodox Church, which is the Body of Christ, and not a humorous talk show "Happy Fr ."
"We will make you laugh " - was written in his time at one of the posters Petrosian. Presumably you did not pursue this goal by assigning a position of responsibility - Chaplin.
However , this goal is achieved.

Sincerely,
Dmitry Olshansky .



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Старый 30.09.2011, 00:03 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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legalizes adoption laws.
What laws?
He wants to seriously study the presence of books in Nabokov, and García Márquez promote pedophilia.

You are a subject that read?

The laws of some sort ...
> It's funny.
>



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Старый 29.09.2011, 23:43 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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raises a serious question of public morality znachimyy.Razlozhenie undermine the foundations of the state ( this is understandable , even for an atheist )
Exactly.
Everything right .

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) if it were not representative of the ROC made ​​
I do not believe the institution officials ROC, on behalf of B. Chaplin.
I do not believe in their good intentions .
Then , something else .
And this is another very disturbing.



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Старый 01.10.2011, 08:08 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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Peter, I am not in any way for the legalization of pedophilia.
I mean, that the clergy would be let off and started.
Declared as a Bolshevik at the time that the ranks of the church is fierce struggle with pedophilia !
What wag novels? What to take with them?
This is reminiscent of the burning of books at the time of Hitler .
In addition to this guff will not work.
Look how many times was imposed on the project in the State Duma and pedophilia always there and blocked.
Gentlemen!
Everyone knows that the fish rots from the head.



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Старый 01.10.2011, 09:31 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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I mean, that the clergy would be let off and started .
That is - Yes.
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What wag novels?
And this is - No
You have read my post about how these novels say?
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Look how many times was imposed on the project in the State Duma and pedophilia always there and blocked .
Only the church in this case, there is nothing. This is what Chaplin and talked, not about the novel Nabokov. But for some reason this part of his speech does not care about either the media or society , but the provocative question of a journalist and a neutral response - all hooked up .
Look here even after my post as it was still stubbornly continue to mourn the novels.



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Старый 01.10.2011, 12:06 Язык оригинала: Русский       #6
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Have you read my post about how these novels say ?
Ha, those hasty vain obyasnyalki only poddtverzhdayut reaktsiyui correctness and fears of the public.
After a fight with his fists do not wave . ( c) >
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But for some reason this part of his speech does not care about either the media or society , but the provocative question of a journalist and a neutral response - all hooked up .
Russian culture in all of literature , and that's a reaction.
Deserved !
And by the way, not one statement provakatsionnoe Chaplin not to criticize his leadership , remember .



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Старый 01.10.2011, 13:36 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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Russian culture in all literature, all of literature, everything - literature , and that's a reaction .
Only Literature rozn.Russkaya culture is based on the highest- Orthodoxy in the writings of the great heroes, love of country in sochineiyah best Russian poets Pushkin and from Derzhavin, in the throes of spiritual quest and Dostoevsky, Gogol specificities ... But Nabokov wrote the novel typical western and in form and content gives soderzhaniyu.A gniltsoy.Porok ( and perverse thoughts) are set in an attractive light, excite the soul crying out to the fallen and strastnomu.chto in man , and often find otklik.Eto Western culture , which is generally implanted in us ( in Russia ) at least two hundred years, and already provides our land lush shoots , unfortunately.



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Старый 01.10.2011, 13:47 Язык оригинала: Русский       #8
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It's Western culture , which is commonly implanted in us (in Russia ) at least two hundred years, and already provides our land lush shoots , unfortunately.
300 " implanted " Western culture .
Tsar Peter I began . He, remember, and abolished in Russia patriarshesto .
But you can say that, for example , St. Petersburg is not a Russian city , you can blame Peter the Great for " planting " the secular Western zhitvopisi in Russia?
Where are you calling , Peter? By torch and sandals ? In huts with earthen floors, black on their heat with wood ?
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Russian culture is based on the highest- Orthodoxy in the writings of the great heroes, love of country in sochineiyah best Russian poets from Pushkin
Yes, read :
We are good citizens amused
And the infamous pillar
Guts of the last priest
The last king snake .
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Where are you calling, Peter?

By torch and sandals?
In huts with earthen floors, black on their heat with wood?
In a tent, but at heart ..
> And when the soul is pure and beautiful, and she in the palace and in a tent is good! A grimy and ugly smoke will let other soil ...




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Старый 01.10.2011, 14:24 Язык оригинала: Русский       #10
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Peter, and as you are "high images of Orthodoxy"?
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What about the age of brides at the beginning of HYIII attempt was made to move away from the old tradition of low marriage age of brides: the Decree of primogeniture in 1714 defined the age of 17 as the voting age girls in marriage. However, the custom to get married early, at age 12, when the girls were dependent and dependent not only on the will, but from life experience of parents, continued to persist, in spite of any orders. Church rules continue to oblige, "srodichey" marry girls and all children without delay as soon as they "enter the age»: «Everybody parent befits his son to marry one, when it dies age 15 years and daughter 12 years old" . Thus, the decree on raising the marriage age of brides and 17 years, not only broke the tradition, but also the church (Byzantine) rule of law. As in the XVII century., In Peter's time to establish legal marriage age of brides few have complied.

In the middle, and especially in the late eighteenth century mismatch enduring traditions and legislation has been particularly pronounced. The decree of the Synod of 1774 he returned to the practice, lowering the marriageable age of girls to 13 years. Peter the Great's innovation proved unsustainable: the majority of the nobility, not to mention the other classes, choosing a in the eighteenth century 12-13-year-old female. The famous diarist Andrei Bolotov said that he wooed a 12-year old bride and a wedding a year after the courtship. Prince Yuri Dolgoruky married eleven-year-girl. Danish Ambassador Justus Yul said in his notes that the governor's wife, with whom he was staying, there was no 12. Similar reports can be found in the letters of the Secretary British Embassy, ​​L. Veysbroda Even Peter himself I announced my adulthood daughter Elizabeth (the future ruler of Russia), when she was 12 years old. What to say about "ordinary" citizens? The "tender" age-12 years, married the famous scientist A. Karmysheva AE Labzina, grandmother, Princess E.P.Yankovoy Meshcherskaya, a teacher at the Smolny Institute, Ms. Lafon. Examples can easily be multiplied 26-year-old gentleman GS Vinsky married 15-year old girl, a contemporary of his ER Dashkova wrote that «15 years in love and got married», after giving birth in due time their first child, at age 16 the second. At 22, she was a widow (the mother Ekaterina also, incidentally, married a Prince. Dashkova 15 years).



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