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Старый 06.09.2011, 00:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #11
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The work of the mentally ill
Medical institut.Zanyatie of psychiatry. Soviet times ....
Lecturer threw me on the table, medical history and said:
- Draw!
These things meant that I should have examined the patient, to gather medical history and taking into account their knowledge, to issue the medical history, as well as to protect it for evaluation at the end of the cycle ... trudged to perform ...
My classmates went to the quiet, lovely assholes, but also my "client" was in office for unruly ... put it more simply, in a cage inside the cage!
  Communication with patients and always makes an impression remains in memory ....
Down through the years, I was done work on this topic entitled:
 "The distortion and splitting" (distortion of space and the splitting of consciousness) in which I tried to convey all the horror, in which dwelt the man ...
 Wanting to test the response of the average person on the job, I just posted the picture without text support on one of the resources ...
I do not know what really drew the audience, but in a short amount of time I got 11 600 hits ...
Here is the job ...
The distortion and splitting.

In a small window of this apartment, middle of the house, a large city such a person sits.
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call it the Double-U. Because of this fixed position Double-U is already several hours you might get the impression that he was asleep or dead. But you are wrong, the man is alive and awake. Moreover, in his mind is set thriller. Colorful and realistic picture of changing one after another, one after another. The sight is so spectacular that it is impossible to come off! And now comes the climax: the window creeps huge fly. It folds its wings, bends his head to prevent damage to doors and windows ... straightening takes an entire room. Double-U feel its unpleasant smell, the touch of hairs and antennae chitinous cover. He runs out into the hallway terrified and hides in the closet. But the thing! While Double-th run away from flies, from the big toe of his left hand began to grow thick, black hair. Double w out a pocket knife and cut the hair. But, oh, horror! Hair continued to grow, filling the toilet rings. I had to cut and cut, cut, and cut the damn hair, washing the toilet. But Hair does not let up, grew and grew until the Double-U has not fallen to the floor in exhaustion. The vision ended and it was again out of "asylum" and sit by the window. And so - every day, in different variations. Double-U was confined to his room to his apartment, was a slave of the lamp. But someday, you had to go to work. Alarm was raised from the evening and rang on time. Double-U took a shower, shaved, put on a suit and went to work (he was a TV technician in the studio) leaving the trolley at the right stop, he suddenly stumbled and ... was back in his bed. And so several times a day. When, on the evening of Double-U finally got a job he was told that he had been fired six months ago for the systematic absences. What an injustice, thought Double-yu, but did not argue. Comforting thought that the room with a chair by the window to dismiss it no one can do that. In other matters .... Came to mind a quote: "I do not drink, do not smoke, do not use drugs, do not swear obscenities, do not fuck with strangers, do not go to work, since all it can to distract me from important of suicidal thinking
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Старый 06.09.2011, 10:46 Язык оригинала: Русский       #13
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PHANTASMAGORIUM DR.MORIAKOFF - WE TREAT YOUR SOUL!
What? Pills and bullying ?????
Who ever had the misfortune to deal with local psychiatrist, eventually learns - help them do not wait. They only konstantiruyut that and so has raised concerns and made contact nim.Svoe complete ignorance of the processes occurring in the human brain, they cleverly camouflage and trying to cash, prescribing completely useless and even worse harmful, because of disastrous consequences of side effects of drugs expensive. They have contracts with farmatseftami for which they receive a percentage of sales. They trade the opportunity to declare any person as incapable as the potatoes on bazare.Ih knowledge of the human brain, about the processes occurring in it are at 19, early 20th century, and the criteria ad man "dushevnbolnym" are the same as in medieval times, plus the ability to cash depending on the circumstances.
As for med.personala so-called "spets.med.ucherezhdeny," it is notorious fiends and perverts. The situation in these institutions can not contribute to "treatment", she simply awful.



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Moriakoff, I am very happy
Enough rest!

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As for med.personala so-called " spets.med.ucherezhdeny ," it is notorious fiends and perverts
Why is it all with the same brush ..
I assure you that such institutions have a lot of good people.
But the monsters and perverts have enough in everyday life . Unfortunately .




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Who ever had the misfortune to deal with local psychiatrist , eventually learns - help them do not wait .
You know what lobotomy?
Simply put, it's in orbit, with a thin stiletto crossed neural pathways connecting the frontal lobe ( responsible for intelligence) with the rest of the brain ...
Behavior of the patient after surgery deprived emotional painting , it is retarded ... came up with this Moniz Portuguese and received a Nobel Prize.
And what electric? This is when the voltage is passed through the brain of several hundred volts ... ... Cerletti invented by an Italian
insulin- shock therapy invented by an American Sakelem M. ...
So, among the authors of the most brutal and institutionalized methods of treatment in psychiatry, I do not see a single Russian surname ...
Principal are the differences between domestic psychiatry from abroad does not exist ... if you omit the material-technical base ...
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His answer you can not help but have convincingly demonstrated a sufficient conservatism and backwardness of Soviet psychiatry!
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insulin-shock therapy, invented by an American M. Sakelem ...
in 1933!
And by 1957 was banned in the West about the method itself no longer mentioned in the textbooks, and if they mention it only in negative terms.
"In our country, ICT was still used, it has always been and continues to be one of the most effective methods of intensive biological treatment of psychosis, which is well known to several generations of doctors." This is a quote from the book - A. I. Nelson. Quick guide for physicians on the application of forced insulinokomatoznoy therapy. 2004
Now this zhivodersky method of "treatment" is carried out in parallel with the antipsychotic drugs - and "move with the times" and for his pocket, "the doctor" very well polzitelno.

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Principal are the differences between domestic psychiatry from abroad does not exist ... if you omit the material-technical base ...
and add the complete powerlessness of those whom you "treat".
Although if the "healthy" citizens will now boast real rights, then just find them around as if it's softer ...... not of this world!



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Now this zhivodersky method of "treatment" is carried out in parallel with the use of neuroleptics - and " move with the times " and for his pocket , " the doctor " very well polzitelno .
37godom smell .... Doctors monsters , doctors killer shot like rabid dogs!
 I remembered an anecdote:
Man sitting in the barber shop ... and the government had the bad, and thieves all around, and doctors - murderers, perverts , paramedic ...
Barber listened - listened, and said:
- Young man, if you decide to make a revolution , why not start with my hairdresser ? ( Translation by me : why start with a small psychiatric hospital ?))
With regards to treatment of comatose , it is in Russia today is almost never used ...
Well, just imagine : a single chamber , specially trained personnel, doroguschy insulin, very limited evidence , diet ...
Well, I beg you , here on the pill is not enough money !
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There is already a steady term : penal psychiatry "[/URL].

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The system of punitive psychiatry was destroyed in the Soviet Union only in 1988 when the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Health were transferred 16 a special psychiatric hospital USSR Interior Ministry , and five of them were completely eliminated. With psychiatric accounting have been removed 776 000 patients .



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they cleverly camouflage and trying to cash in
The remaining doctors are cashing in too , and for the dying and their relatives , which I consider more pernicious .
Psychiatrist even really stop people from attacks, so those would - th-th ... Yes, and stabilize all ready , they can even work that used them were not observed, although at 12 000 p /month, but some medications do not they pour into jars .



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PHANTASMAGORIUM DR.MORIAKOFF - WE TREAT YOUR SOUL !
What ? Pills and bullying ?????
Most interesting is that people think so even those pills to help .
Drunk man pills, went back to work , going a little - and immediately
pills in the trash . And the monasteries .

And then look for his long , are found in Bogulme , then sobbing relatives long into the telephone receiver
and promise to comply with all recommendations.

I hear similar stories every other day.
But psychiatrists can take - and to cancel?
Maniacs , apparently for .




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