Ladies and gentlemen, do not go to college to study "Gelos"!

[Alica]

Sim, do not cry . I agree with you that this is a serious MSU Art and Education. But few have the opportunity to 30-40-45 years old , with family, work and other worries to study there for 5 years .... This is an evening and select " Gelos ".
We are not talking about education, and fraud. And we declare that Mr. O. Stetsyura really is .
Santa -2 years + diploma.

[Сима]

Сообщение от Alica; 1733371"

But few have the opportunity

 I did not cry , the night already .
The thing is motivation and self-esteem , I studied there after 30 , while working to complete. And on the first or second course went out of the estate, to train in the evening walking in the dark on the highway was . At night, after the lectures asleep on the subway , I was afraid to go into the tunnel for six years . We left the girls in the decree and restored later. And the thesis defended. The will must have been, and once again, motivation, and the bar ( self-esteem, that is) to keep the taller ...

[Santa]

Сообщение от Alica; 1733371"

It's not about education, and fraud.

Alica, but you also wrote that teachers teach and normal .. , then - this is called fraud anymore.
You're still, for some knowledge ... go
Attended a course ( as , perhaps, more correctly call it ) and forward to apply the knowledge obtained .. and you do this paper , a diploma?

[Вивьен]

Сообщение от Alica; 1733371"

But few have the opportunity to 30-40-45 years old , with family, work and other worries to study there for 5 years .... This is an evening and select " Gelos ".

I have a family , work, worries just before the morning 's Sunday today , and I'm up to seven nights at work. But this does not prevent me from last year to go to the South-Ukrainian State Pedagogical University . Ushinski learn art . And I drove there myself consciously at least six years , because I then need to graduate , postgraduate and so - forth. Though I by correspondence . But if it were not for this forum , which inspired me , I think , confined to a higher economic . After three days I will be 32 years old, I'm in my second year and very happy.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Vivien

After three days I will be 32 years old, I'm in my second year and very happy.

I know, I know ...
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Facebook has already recalled.
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[artcol]

Сообщение от Vivien

But if it were not for this forum, which inspired me, I think, confined to a higher economic.

Very interesting >

[Alica]

Santa, we use.
But education must be documented.


Sim, as my mother, "Then we had another time."
And lived in a hostel, and washing diapers, and the train went.

[Сергей Дородный]

Сообщение от Sim

Sumasoyti ! Two years and you're art ! And we fools of 5-6 years in refractive universities, lectures were recorded in the dark , at 6:00 Graschenkova listened. This is , excuse me, what kind of education on current standards - higher , vocational , or what? That the diploma that they write? Just so , in plain text - art ? Or more and an art historian, perhaps ?

You are certainly right on the merits ( spoken several times with the graduates of these courses , any of the names of 70gg -present . Except the media , do not know ), but the girl is not my fault that everything is now.

Alica, sorry , can you calm down somewhat by the fact that in the arts , most people , IMHO , without acc. diplomas.

[Ika-Ika]

Сообщение от Sima ; 1733341"

Sumasoyti ! Two years and you're art ! And we fools of 5-6 years in refractive universities, lectures were recorded in the dark , at 6:00 Graschenkova listened. This is , excuse me, what kind of education on current standards - higher , vocational , or what? That the diploma that they write? Just so , in plain text - art ? Or more and an art historian, could it be?

 Someone here said of the goods manager and iskusstvovedah.V this Gelos , perhaps, to commodity researchers uchat.Otlupilos some of the lost pants , one page with the verse of an old book ripped . For all the minus -plus dollar poldollara.Vse affect the price . This can be learned quickly , but two years to learn this mnogovasto , though gay science .

[Santa]

Сообщение от Ika-Ika

Someone here said of the commodity researcher and art historian.

That said, Guriev, Igor.

In a subject - I do not remember too lazy to search ..

Most importantly, remember that statement.

And it is very accurate ..