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Old 24-07-2011, 07:20 Original language: Russian        #1
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And if the forensic?
They have (should be) technique determine the identity a person?
  
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There is no such technology.
Well this is not a photograph.



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In Odessa, the poet spent 13 months - from July 3, 1823 to July 31, 1824

And the label says:

"Pushkin. presented them in person at 1832 on 17 April, a close friend of Lorovichu"

Need to look where he was a poet in 1832, as dates of your stay in Odessa differ from the date of donation.



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There is no such technology. Well this is not a photograph .
Silent Sapa, you know exactly what this technology is not ? I was interested in at a friend's programmers say that such a program could easily be set up (one even interested in, do not order it? ) , Which means that there should be ( IMHO ).
Comparison of the proportions of individuals in different images can be done regardless of whether it is photo or drawing.



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I know for sure .

The ratios of proportions on the face will always be portrayed different on your portraits. Artists do not mechanically reproduce the visible, but it is always changing , depending on the artistic challenges of vision or the level of painting . Enough to score in search of pictures of a famous character or a royal person and see what range .
Or vice versa. Bard , for example, so its highly stylized model , respectively, his manner, that a fair amount of it looks the same as portrayed siblings .

So that the machine does not work. She and the photos do not always work. To give one shot lens distortion, and everything any computer, without being pre- distortion is a pre-set you do not compute .



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I look at him and find out more and more features of the poet.

Perhaps the family resemblance.
Relatives, in fact, similar.
If we assume that the information on the reverse is true.
May be, in fact, more of Alexandra and Alexei Pushkin, and mozhte, even Ambrose >



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In the 4th volume of " Russian genealogy book " (1857) Vol . Dolgorukov is unpretentious painting Pushkin pedigree .

19 generation
Alexei Mikhailovich. Valid Chamberlain. † 1825.05.25
Alexander L. .

20 generation
Alexander . [Poet].
Alexander Yu . * 1799. Married to Molchanova.
Alexei Mikhailovich. * 1792 , † 1820.



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I look at him and find out more and more features of the poet .
I agree . Pushkin was very young then . Portrait much spoiled , erased nmnogo , eye, for example ... Taken together, seems to be true ... Clarify who is Lorovich and where at the time was Pushkin ... We are accustomed to seeing the same pictures ...

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Griffins , shown in a frame, were among the symbols of the Romanovs.
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K-Maler, unfortunately for the character by the name of Lorovich addition, Google does not issue.

Lorovich Benedict


tutorial was Italian.
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and "Biogr. lexicon's most famous men" (Odessa, 1876).
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on the character by the name of Lorovich addition , Google does not give anything
Well , something is still there on the Internet . VV Lorovich , obviously , the one in question is mentioned in connection with AS Pushkin on
http://pushkinskijdom.ru/LinkClick.a...tabid = 10 358
( a - pdf document - see extract) . So if you would find in any library, "Odessa Herald" 1880 , № 123, can read it for additional information.

But for me personally it is extremely doubtful that the portrait depicts AS Pushkin. Yes, and in the caption only says that Pushkin gave the portrait Lorovichu , not that this is a portrait of Pushkin. Maybe depicts some of their mutual friends. And the very strange inscription - with a bunch of errors ...
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Amateur, Thank you for your help!

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