Maastricht 2011

[LCR]

Originally Posted by fross

For some reason I think that Vladimir is not too far from the truth, see what kind of sales at Phillips. And judging by the interviews of this auction, and their collectors belong to those who are aesthetically closer Lofts, hi-tech well, and everything else is appropriate to the interior "And judging by the fact that movies, magazines and Other means of influence offered as a standard of "beautiful life", this is a large-format paintings or black and white photographs. Venture to suggest that if we are talking about 40 year olds, it will likely style of American movies and magazines 80-90s, a kind of "fulfillment of desires".

This is partly true. But customers who buy such art, the first run to sell it in a crisis, exacerbating it - is the real stock market players.
And besides, I have the impression that the symbol of this wealth, and not just crazy - and not very stable - the money is impressionists and modernists, and not some besv ky (n) with Itza "with the old masters, of course, complicated.
So growing up, and the rich, many go to the normal art, without the (joint) risk.

[fross]

Originally Posted by LCR

This is partly true . But customers who buy such art , the first run to sell it in a crisis , exacerbating it - is the real stock market players .
And besides , I have the impression that the symbol of this wealth , and not just crazy - and not very stable - the money is impressionists and modernists , and not some besv ky ( n ) with Itza " with the old masters , of course , complicated .
So growing up , and the rich , many go to the normal art , without the ( joint ) risk .

Well, the Impressionists and molernisty has long been in the majors , and on their wall hangs a few , more on the safes , it even seems that they just become kind of large banknotes
A Koons , he smartly puts the trap - and you are the pink panther , and a blonde in a red dress , how poor they stand ? " And by the way Dubosarsky Vinogradov with the same device - " people person " " ) )

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Originally Posted by LCR

This is partly true . But customers who buy such art , the first run to sell it in a crisis , exacerbating it - is the real stock market players .
And besides , I have the impression that the symbol of this wealth , and not just crazy - and not very stable - the money is impressionists and modernists , and not some besv ky ( n ) with Itza " with the old masters , of course , complicated .
So growing up , and the rich , many go to the normal art , without the ( joint ) risk .

Well impressionists and modernists have long been in the majors , and on the walls of their few hangs , more and more of safes , I even think that they just become a sort of large cash bills
A Koons , he smartly puts the trap - and you are the pink panther , and blonde in outdoor dress , how poor they stand ? " And by the way Dubosarsky Vinogradov with the same device - " people person " " ) )

[Seriy]

For some reason we are discussing only the stars like Hirst or Koons . In fact artrynok not fed them , IMHO , it's authors to the media . Being in the U.S. I saw Hurst ( skull on the foil ) once and then , in a Russian gallery .
A picture and the market is living in very different authors , there is known and unknown here . Evaluate the Western market at a cost of Koons and Hirst is the same as that assessed rossrynok cost Nikas and Tsereteli.
It seemed to me that the live , daily sales are 10-50 thousand dollars . Buy modern authors . Then some of them transferred to the discharge of hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars , but the other market , slower . So there is some writer for the millions of whether or not someone for millions , the market is like for this time gallery will sell 20 works by 50 thousand

[qwerty]

Perhaps the decision to boycott the esteemed LCR Maastricht looks too categorical, but comprehending what he saw, coming to believe that buy there will soon be impossible to do. It seems that this art has become the lot of the elect. This, incidentally, explains supertolkuchku to "preview" and rather quiet interest in the remaining days (it was exactly the opposite).
There have written about the price of Nolde, really Marlborough gallery sold it for 285,000 euros, Frans Jacobs - over 295,000, but the Swiss Berade already over 460,000. And this is a doubling of prices for the year can be regarded as a trend: virtually any image of Picasso or Miro has asked hundreds of thousands of euros. Wonderful paintings by Matisse 40-ies, for which the price for a long time kept at the level of 100-140 thousand already sold at 300, but for the picture that I give below, was asked to 690,000 euros. And so in all, less than 30 000 can be found only printed graphics, while here in the lithography Miro and Picasso asked more than 100000.
It remains to wait until spring auctions and to understand this global trend, or until the initiative of Maastricht.
Below I show you some pictures, as mentioned above. In the second picture - Botero per million, the third - a hefty Moore (several tons of weight exactly), the sixth mediation von Jawlensky, around 15h10 cm, but the color, 195000, more funny Peter Soule, two pictures - the first 58,000, the second 145,000, and the latter - a masterpiece of contemporary art, with astonishment, I forgot to write down the name and title!

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Originally Posted by "qwerty

two pictures - the first 58000, second 145000

Ladies at the second photo Alisa Koonen reminded of that.

[LCR]

Originally Posted by Seriy

For some reason we are discussing only the stars like Hirst or Koons. In fact artrynok not fed them, IMHO, it's authors to the media. /.../
It seemed to me that the live, daily sales are 10-50 thousand dollars. Buy modern authors. Then some of them transferred to the discharge of hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars, but the other market, slower. So there is some writer for the millions of whether or not someone for millions, the market is like for this time gallery will sell 20 works by 50 thousand

Sergey, do not forget the context - this theme is dedicated to the fair in Maastricht, that is, the high-end art market, where this year is just before the car, painted Koons (it - the car - remember, was reproduced on the forum).

Originally Posted by qwerty

Perhaps the decision to boycott the esteemed LCR Maastricht looks too categorical, but comprehending what he saw, coming to believe that buy there will soon be nothing. It seems that this art has become the lot of the elect. This, incidentally, explains supertolkuchku to "preview" and rather quiet interest in the remaining days (it was exactly the opposite).

True, they say, that he gave for the first half of the known prices. I do not know, I did not try to haggle
My decision not to go more on this fair - this is not a boycott. As you know, I go there I am solely with cognitive goal. The principle of fair, I think I realized exceptional things on her show quite a bit, I just was not interested to continue, that's all.