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Старый 03.02.2011, 17:27 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1911
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Here it is in light of the creative process the artist or even the fact of his presence on the forum?
I'm talking about the presence on the Internet Ixygona artist, well, yes, and the story of his creative process, which detail is Seriy.



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I'm talking about the presence of the internet artist Ixygona, the sale of his works there, well, yes, and the story of his creative process, which conducts detailed Seriy.
Understood, but having before his eyes the example Ixygona respected, we would like to find out where, so to speak, beyond the limits of the Network for an artist who wants to have buyers. In short, if the desire and time to write about it, it would be highly instructive and interesting, I think, for many



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I mean, the artist is better not to" light up "with his opinion, being a kind of terra incognita? (This, of course about the artist, in general, not about a particular. A serious question you raised, Cyril)
I think - yes.
The artist must say the curators of his exhibitions, the exhibition itself, and articles about them, their abstracts and publications and so on.
The author has on the opening day with a smile, accepting congratulations and flowers left autographs on their albums and booklets, and not to tell everyone and everything where you can buy cheap hardboard and there is the same size cut for the "free".
 

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Understood, but with the sight of the distinguished Ixygona example, I would like to find out where, so to speak, beyond the limits of the Network for an artist who wants to have customers.
Ixygona example - an example of attempts to self-promotion.
"Rotate stuffing back already, I think it will not work.
There are two options:
1. "Rebranding-2. For example, to enter the market under its "natural" name. But it's interesting for the domestic market. Draft Ixygon thought, as I understand it, with a focus on the external market;
2. continue the begun, samoraskruchivatsya the Internet: If the long-tormented get something! (c)




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The author has on the opening day with a smile, accepting congratulations and flowers left autographs on their albums and booklets, and not to tell everyone and everything where you can buy cheap hardboard and there is the same size cut for the "free ".
And so it is not so.
Now is the time information, ideas, meanings hidden and obvious. Therefore, the artist and to socialize and talk about that in his mind and on canvas. Phrases like my paintings themselves all say - bad.
Especially in this sense need internet, where you're communicating to acquire a certain range, or vice versa you walk in a circle. And if you're interested in how people, and your creativity too.
And to say where your work can be bought on the cheap, of course not necessary. Discuss the economy of the process ... Well why not? Grounds the? Petty?



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Старый 03.02.2011, 18:00 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1915
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Therefore, an artist and need to communicate and talk about that in his mind and on canvas.
After a series of exhibitions and publications about the artist - yes, perhaps.
And it is, rather, refers to "aktualschikam" with the experience. Kulik - a world celebrity is not at the stage of promotion, you will agree, and can already read, and lectures.

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And if you're interested in how people, and your creativity too.
In-in, "creativity" rather than a page in artmazhure or artnau.

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Discuss the economy of the process ... Well why not? Grounds the? Petty?
No, not in the "pettiness" case.
It's all the same inside kitchen - the economy of the process, why should it "turn out" outside, on a general review /discussion?
I do not see this as positive, it's, pardon me, like an underwear, wear. Discuss the merits /disadvantages of brand underwear manufacturer may, perhaps, but certainly in a very narrow range and rare, not making it hendlaynom.




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Старый 03.02.2011, 18:27 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1916
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Cyril Syzransky, I largely agree with you. Maybe my excessive openness. But the artist Ixygon largely a child of the Internet, public offerings and exchange information, and not so much that hosts on the network almost all the work on the day of their creation, but also that teach all over the internet-primed canvas I teach experienced Artist from Ukraine on the Internet, all information on the pigments - from the American Internet, the whole vast array of artistic, visual information, archives, Picasso, Matisse is poured into me from the Internet - because I do not have traditional teacher of painting. After all, nobody ever of students could not be considered, almost all the work, drawings, Picasso's entire kitchen with a huge resolution, under a microscope.
 Excessive openness has its drawbacks. Here I went to the exhibition "Distortion" and I was bored out there, I already saw all of the artists in LJ. Annoys me too much interest in the prices of my work-rate them all very well known, it is standard for my situation, but people still want to know the specific price for each specific job. I said that on artmazhere where there is a different statistic, I have more than 800 (!) Requests the price of different works, mind, it is even difficult to understand, imagine that nearly a thousand people will approach you to ask how much that you have worth and nothing not buy-in real life it does not happen, and the Internet easily.
But so many artists now live, they are in the LJ, they facebook - their every sneeze and comments known. In each of the demolition involves the entire Runet, as in the recent scandal when it emerged that a photo used by the artist Vrubel, he did not ask permission from the authors' EM nick followed, where he took the photo.

  Openness, of course, has its pluses, you know people who did not go to the gallery, and these people are buying then you have a job. I write from abroad, they know me only through the Internet. Recently, a man from Europe asked me to participate in the new Internet-Draft representing Russia - I am pleased this recognition involved. If he reads these lines, tell him thank you very much!
(I got a reference on this subject in the English version of a forum for English speakers).
So openness is meaningful and meaningless. Meaningless piece I decided to make some poprizhat-I do not place 100%of the work, I do not place the work of more than 1 meter - to the web, they look no matter and no one will buy, why do light work, see the exhibition. I stopped to place the work in sites with low-impact. I reduced the number of voiced prices so that they might completely refuse issuing the prices of specific products will only estimate the overall cost. I refuse proposals come to me and see 100%of work that I have in stock. Talk fiberboard, cardboard, canvas and others will soon itself come to naught - I went through that stage.

  So I think the view of Cyril largely in line with the truth and is willing to take action.
 The only thing I can contradict him - as if I was not open if for myself is a mystery, as my brain and my hands are building the track and write the work, the creation of the work will remain a mystery for the viewer. That is, from what I have to say that I ate for breakfast, does not mean that in a few hours, I write "Three Women" - I do not know that I write tomorrow ..
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Seriy, I just expressed my thoughts on the matter and then only after your phrase about the "gallery owner and dealer."

May be wrong in your particular case.

But it seems to me that you have the most oppressive show their stuff on the Internet.



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Seriy, I just expressed my thoughts on the matter and then only after your phrase about the "gallery owner and dealer."
May be wrong in your particular case.
But it seems to me that you have the most oppressive show their stuff on the Internet.
Who are you talking about because of gallery owners and dealers?. You probably want to say to collectors and preobretateli.? Usually, the village and served by someone's tastes, and these tastes may not coincide ... In addition, in the absence of the market, ie sales opportunities purchases all ephemeral and purchase the Grey may be a few years, very profitable, while Kulik is scandalous and an uncertain reputation already.



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Cyril Syzransky, started the phrase was not me, I went on it :-)

No, not oppressed, I do need is my audience. When I put the work in the Internet, I immediately start looking at it through the eyes of the viewer, sometimes just go and rework in the work of something ... there is a note in the comments - "little fix, replaced the photo ... Secondly, when your work is among other authors, do you see yourself what you stand and what to work on ... If work is not posted, you're deprived of it all. Just need to leave and intrigue, m e not shown the work or may even whole trend or technique, and be considerate in matters of issuing price ...
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[QUOTE="Pavel; 1509871] Who are you talking about because of gallery owners and dealers?.
[/QUOTE]

I saw here this phrase:


[QUOTE="Seriy; 1509031]Galleries and Dealers, we're sitting in the middle of gallery owners and dealers, since I do not need them yet, so have not yet matured as a writer.[/QUOTE]

On it and reacted.

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Typically, the village and served by someone's tastes, and these tastes may not coincide ...
Usually ", and etc."
another and form the tastes, trends, interests and trends.




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