"Socialist realism" - is the era of style in art or life and thinking?

[Jasmin]

My advice, friendship, all the newcomers - Go through the forum topics from the beginning, read (very carefully) all the texts from the LCR, and see (very carefully) all the images, the proposed LCR, and then realize a lot about art, interesting and strange it ways ... and do not have to invent bicycles, to discover America, etc. Check out also the message from the Art-Lover ... in general, there is someone to learn and gain knowledge.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Jasmin

My advice, friendship, all the newcomers - Go through the forum topics from the beginning, read (very carefully) all the texts from the LCR, and see (very carefully) all the images, the proposed LCR, and then many realize about art, interesting and strange ways ... it is not necessary to invent bicycles, to discover America, etc. Check out also the message from the Art-Lover ... in general, there is someone to learn and gain knowledge.

Thanks for the advice.
And can also give a link to my last question?

[Buscador]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

First Answer my questions

... You kept the main thing - the joy and warmth.

[LCR]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

.. And how would you respond? What is your version?

My version - which I have expounded here on the forum (open to you a secret: I'm very talkative) - is all about the individuality of the artist and his vision of the world regardless of the style in which he works. That is why artists such as, for example, Deineka, for all his commitment to the Socialist Realism (which, incidentally, did not prevent him sit out his term) no doubt will remain in the history of art, along with some Derain or do not know, Hartung, which are difficult to suspect in the socialist-realist sympathies.

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Regulation without iklyucheny not happen (Wyeth and mentioned in "Notes"), and speaking of realism I had in mind the realism. I call the orthodox (bifocal)
(Hopper's genius did not think the rest should be revised-TK. "Not deposited")

I do not know what the orthodox /bifocal realism. Wyeth did not use the photos - if you know. In addition, I am convinced that the use of photographs of artists in jail jail do not have - in the end all, yet Vermeer and Cornelius used the "camera obscura".

But I wonder something else: Hopper's genius you do not think Marc Bonnard, Vuillard, Paskin, Fujita, Kisling, Morandi, Braque, Vlaminck - not postponed. So let me ask you, who you have "seceded" from the twentieth century?
I warn you, just in case (the Internet, where there is no intonation - yesch sometimes tricky), I ask, without any desire to hurt, I really wanted to understand.

[NATA NOVA]

The discussion was around this:

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

I can not distinguish from non-Socialist Realism Socialist Realism. The fact that it was drawn in the Soviet era and Soviet socialist realism, does everything in the world! Again, I'm not quite right! Chance of more socialist realism socialist camp.

What will happen after 100 years Like this? That's when art historians will puzzle over definitions, if you are already youth is mistaken.

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Сообщение от Buscador

... You kept the main thing - the joy and warmth.

Of course!. (Always with me) - And the answer is no, and so that hide thyself forever unknown anonymous chatterbox! [ color="# 666686"]Added after 8 minutes[/color]

Сообщение от LCR

My version - which I have expounded here on the forum (open to you a secret: I'm very talkative) - is all about the individuality of the artist and his vision of the world regardless of the style in which he works. That is why artists such as, for example, Deineka, for all his commitment to the Socialist Realism (which, incidentally, did not prevent him sit out his term) no doubt will remain in the history of art, along with some Derain or do not know, Hartung, which are difficult to suspect in the socialist-realist sympathies.

Completely agree! (especially about Deineko !)[ COLOR="Blue"] But the question that was about something else![/COLOR ] (probably did not watch for context, here again, and it came out "Burime" is when you see the last line, and zatsiklivaeschsya on it) And tell Jasmine: Jasmine-you are wrong! - Teminologii catastrophic-shortage (in Latin probably need to go)
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Сообщение от LCR

In addition, I am convinced that the use of photographs of artists in prison do not have to put

And it is here where? (I can not understand) Someone suggested that perhaps?
(added after "highway": "informal" - in my understanding, does not mean "amateurish", does not mean "incorrect") and why? does not understand .. this style of distortions .. Shady like that .. (IMHO))

My area of interest in realism, only everything that is connected with the practical skills izogramotnosti (training, techniques, (adapting them and saving) and therefore everything else I see in this regard (the effect of enrichment). This explains why I'm trying to ekstraktirovat anything that might be useful for this purpose. All the other factors of interest to me, if they are somehow connected with this (basic) interest. (may explain, make clear, to help in understanding ... ETC. )

[LCR]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

The discussion was around this:

Quote:

Completely agree! (especially about Deineko!) But the question that was about something else!
(probably not keep track of the context, here again, and it came out "Burime" is when you see the last line, and zatsiklivaeschsya on it)

Listen, you wrote: "the realism of the 20 th century, almost automatically be read as socialist realism." Then you nuanced as follows: "The realism of the 20 th century, almost automatically will read the art of Totalitarianism. I strongly disagree with either the first or the second option and tried to explain why, citing the short list of the biggest, in my view, the realist artists of the twentieth century, in no way associated with socialist realism, and immeasurably more important than Socialist Realism.

I am convinced that after 100 years of Socialist Realism will be given as much attention as is now being given ofialnomu art III Reich, or Mussolini's Italy. At the same time real identity - whether or Dejneka Severini - will continue to cause admiration.
Whereupon leaving the scene, as more to say on this story I have absolutely nothing.

[Grigory]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

so that the hide thyself forever unknown anonymous chatterbox!

These phrases you do not paint !!!
Let's not sink to the bazaar!

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

so that the hide thyself forever unknown anonymous chatterbox!

Here are all under their nicknames, not many open themselves.
So what?

[Grigory]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

So what?

Tired to be good! Over Bazaar èü!
: mad:

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от LCR

At the same time real identity - whether Dejneka or Severini - will continue to cause admiration.

Agnalogichno! Agree! Full одобрямс!

Сообщение от LCR

I am convinced that after 100 years of Socialist Realism will be given as much attention as is now being given ofialnomu art III Reich, or Mussolini's Italy

  So you see how things can be summarized (if not burime)
Thank you. Understood. Thank you.