Fakes ... Fakes ...

[Seriy]

OlegTsi, referred to yueer Matsok, I think, is not interested in the level of hundreds of thousands of auctions, it frankly makes cheap products gift plan - a Picasso, a Cubist - small size, small price of 40-60 dollars, really, type-somewhere I saw it .. and people take, just to create an atmosphere of home-kubistkoy original work. For thousands of prints by Picasso firm officially bought prava.Glazu Picasso very well known, but here is something new, but very reminiscent .. Crime in this no no, IMHO, until he puts his signature is not his. Those that I saw, signed JM. And the name-"Still Life 50-ies" can be read - in the style of 50's. He's not making false documents.

[OlegTsi]

Seriy,

 I have not delved into this man's work, a few years ago, I asked him a question that sounded in the style: "And not ashamed to pass off as originals and sell such works? The answer was: "You are what is wrong?"

I specifically cited the example of tampering with signatures - Goncharov, Andreyenko. They signed JM not, so I think this is cheating. 10-20 or 1000 dollars - no difference. Dishonesty is not izmeryaetsya sum. If it is, then it is. This is my opinion, can someone disagrees with me.

P.S. I do not want to argue about it. Let stand posts with specific photographs. It would be obvious. Thank you.

[Seriy]

OlegTsi, is a simple and very effective way, write him a file on Ibey negative feedback, it will read all, who will decide he has something to buy.

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OlegTsi, and why you do not blame Burliuk for copying Van Gogh?
Please understand me correctly, I'm on the side of the artist. Picasso several years rewriting Breakfast on the grass, has created hundreds of drawings and paintings on one subject is not his picture. I signed your name. He is a criminal and a dishonest man?
IMHO, a crime, a dishonest act can be called the action when it is committed. When you create a fake product with a criminal purpose, forged documents to him, turns profit or attempt to obtain financial gain.
And if we begin to dismantle whose explanation of who wrote, so two-thirds or more artists have to reduce to the dishonest.

[U_Z]

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OlegTsi, always with great pleasure that I read your posts and comments. Write as often as possible, very interesting and informative. Thank science!

[OlegTsi]

U_Z, and thanks to all of you that are reading and answering. It would be a little more time ... But I'll try.

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Сообщение от Seriy

write him a file on Ibey negative feedback

To do this, you should buy him this thing. Why do not want. The biggest punishment for him - this is when it will stop working buy.

Сообщение от Seriy

why do you not condemn Burliuk for copying Van Gogh?

He kopiiroval, and used some of the motifs, elements onto, style, letting all seen at the Van Gogh Museum through its creative prism. Even resorting to such methods, all the same they all understood that this creativity Burliuk, he always signed Burlyuk and never Van Gogh.

In Ukraine there is a young graphic artist Oleg Denisenko. He has been compared to znemenitym Durer. The museum Durer he held an exhibition, while it retains its unique style and handwriting. And for that he blamed no one, even the Germans.

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Seriy, is very often seen on the market is very important work. As the descriptions of the prestigious auction houses use various sources to show us the origin of the idea of creating a painting. To write a lot, track work Baranova-Rossine, where the ideas were taken from Matisse and other authors. Pity no figures at hand, but if you need to find. But it is not important. The point is that this interpretation, your vision, display or Express. In this and the power of art. Many artists have written articles, vases, tables, plates, figures, trees. But how do you write? As wrote Nathan Altman, Soutine, Schr, Konchalovsky, Falk, Lentulov, Malevich. Vases are the same - different vision - in this and the power of personal worldview in the arts. This is not kopiirovanie, and perhaps artistic interpretation. I hope my idea is clear.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от OlegTsi

The answer was: "You have a case?"

Fully agree with your post number 172.
Such responses sometimes are on the forum.

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Сообщение от Seriy

Please understand me correctly, I'm on the side of the artist. Picasso several years rewriting Breakfast on the grass, has created hundreds of drawings and paintings on one subject is not his picture. I signed your name. He is a criminal and a dishonest man?
IMHO, a crime, a dishonest act can be called the action when it is committed. When you create a fake product with a criminal purpose, forged documents to him, turns profit or attempt to obtain financial gain.
And if we begin to dismantle whose explanation of who wrote, so two-thirds or more artists have to reduce to the dishonest.

Once you become the same as the famous Van Gogh and Burliuk (which I sincerely wish you), you'll understand and even explain svom grandchildren as yourself must be conducted in such situations.

[OlegTsi]

I remember how about a couple of years skeptically looked at the picture, supposedly Al. Blgomazova, which was sold in Germany at one of the auctions. The combination of the words "vanguard" and "Germany" is often caused not by one of the best associations.

Offered a cartoon figure in red for a ridiculous price of coal within the boundaries of 1000 dollars. Title - "Rhythm of the two material mixtures. 1915 (obviously not the price for the original Bogomazova.).

Delving into his a material found one of the first sales figure under the same name, also red coal. It was in New York in 1974 (and may have been sold, but this is the earliest date of sale, recorded in my room). Its over 350 dollars. bought some Dr. V. Huck (Dr. W. Hack).

Comparing the two works on the photo did not find any difference. Except at work, sold in 1974 at the right corner of the figures were either 19, or 29.

It was 30-odd years. Where are the numbers in the lower right corner, if we assume that 2 years in Germany, sold the original (of which I doubt).

Is anyone any explanation?


Photo left - a copy of the catalog in 1974.
Photo right - the work sold in Germany.

[Seriy]

OlegTsi, what is this "red corner"? sanguine?
Yes 29 could simply wipe the editor .. or the owner of a rag-ster is not decorated with the figure drawing.

[OlegTsi]

Seriy, would you erase from work Bogomazova figures supplied by Bogomazova? I would not. I think that nobody would not do that. In the description of the picture - the red coal. I will not interpret.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Seriy

what is this "red corner"? sanguine?

Samghin mineral called "red chalk.
About the "red corner" is also heard. And as in the original, not in Russian? And who has translated well, OlegTsi?