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Старый 22.05.2012, 13:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #161
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But Alex, I (atheist) did not cause any rejection.
And now his figure and activity in general is perceived as a miracle (in the background, then present, and <! - ~ 1 ~ ->).

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and of course, specifically, the Archbishop Luke does not believe a pedophile (or rather do not know )
Valentin Feliksovich widowed in 1919, when he was 42 years old , and the dignity of the priest was ordained to the Diocese of Tashkent in 1921, prodalzhaya a surgeon , in the temple was listed as the 4th priest and served only on Sundays - it was the duty of preaching.
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Старый 22.05.2012, 14:31 Язык оригинала: Русский       #162
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Specifically, the Archbishop Luka
He was well aware of how the Archbishop Luka. The interesting thing remembered the life of this remarkable man . He had vision problems and he did , if memory serves surgery at the hospital. During his stay in the hospital praying for him , not only in the Orthodox church , but also in the synagogue, Rabbi and Muslims in the mosque . These are , he had relations with other faiths.



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Старый 22.05.2012, 15:24 Язык оригинала: Русский       #163
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Those who often uses the label are usually "hurray patriots " or "cheers Putintsev " , they also invented labels , but I'm bored of writing. You Guriev , Igor which of these two categories of yourself?
I just consider myself a liberal , antiputinoidam .

The fact that Liberalism is not compatible with atheism, you know?
For atheists , we - just a protein the body , a variety of proteins .

And I do not understand what could be "freedom" for the protein bodies . And the protein body "person" body more protein - chicken eggs , for instance.

We atheists do not have this and can not be answered.

And if you bogover and a liberal , then everything is clear : the man - the image and likeness of God , and God made us free.

So about those atheist, but the supposedly " liberal" and I drink the phrase " liberast atheist ."




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Старый 22.05.2012, 17:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #164
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Stories with the clock of the patriarch is soon to be 3 years: in Kiev , local photographers naschelkali patriarch of the clock , he in August 2009 there was a visit.
Laughed at and forgotten.
And remember them makes it possible for a new scandal - with the nasty stories about " nanopyle " in an apartment on the waterfront.
Against these scandals have been particularly nauseating about the preaching of this figure nestyazhatelstve and Christian asceticism .
That's when he was reminded of all: the " cigarette business," and " Vodka ", and all of its commercial projects and, of course , support for Putin's candidacy during the presidential election.

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And how do we know that people will come out of officialdom?
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MK: What do you think happened during the vernissage Icons? It was a spontaneous act, or she had a customer?

SS: It was originally planned to show four exhibitions: Icons, «Beware of the museum," Vladimir Dubosarsky and Alexander Vinogradov, the project "Mikroterritoriya" Izhevsk art group "City Ustinov" in KISS and an exhibition of local artists, Vladimir Migacheva and Valeria Casas in the Krasnodar Regional Art Museum. FA Kovalenko, but it was banned. Authorities are now trying to hide, harbor, not to show the local contemporary art. Regarding Icons - there was a clear order of administration.
MK: There is a not very clear to me now. In this region, the strong vertical of power. The local governor Alexander Tkachev - a man who, according to rumors, it is impossible to argue with anything. Exhibition of Icons seemingly was done with the support of the governor. But after what happened at the opening on the sidelines reigns version according to which the order to block the exhibition are from the same place as the resolution on its performance. Gelman showed that in Krasnodar not want to see either him or contemporary art.

SS: In addition to the governor, we still have more vice-governor of Galina Zolin, a local minister of culture and other influential officials. They do not want to be here in the cultural development of any place, do not want the new bearers and competition. Perhaps Tkachev he was not aware of this intrigue. In addition, it is not the first organized protest against modern art. In April, we held "antipussing '- action against the group Pussy Riot, of spirituality. But interestingly, in the event it were herded employees of local cultural institutions, many of them (we interviewed come) first heard about Pussy Riot. So we can say that what happened May 15 - a trend and not an isolated incident.
fully here, to enlighten.

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Last Wednesday, the channel Russia-1 showed the program "historical process" on the Great Patriotic War. Kiselev and his supporters won a complete victory over Svanidze and his henchmen. All attempts to belittle Stalin Nikolai Karlovich led to the opposite result. Generally Svanidze, reasoning about Stalin, like the person sitting to his neck in a swamp. The more he twitches, the more immersed in the quagmire. By all indications, it is possible to conclude that the de-Stalinization in Russia failed miserably, and this means that very soon be followed by a controlling authority in an unlucky shot bolshelobuyu liberal mind. This has already been in our history, in the 20th years of last century, when uncontrolled Nepmen nearly killed our country, and Stalin had to stop the ride control of the NEP control their shot making, and was won by Great Russian victory in 1945.

I can not agree with those authors who consider excessive use of force against the liberal opposition party when it suits, such as "control trips". Russia is not Europe, where dissatisfaction with government, as a rule, does not go beyond certain boundaries. In Russia, everything is done to the maximum. And if the illegal actions of the liberal opposition is not hard to stop, then each time it will act bolder and bolder, until you break the neck of the authorities. That is, if liberals are not suppressed, then Russia will inevitably perish. If applied consistently with respect to the reasonable liberals violence, the chance to escape from Russia remains. But we can not give up the slack, as it did in pre-revolutionary Russia. In addition, the current liberasty for his personal qualities do not go to any comparison with the revolutionaries of the last century and they are not hard to scare. But if you miss the point, then a pack of cowardly jackals can be very dangerous. We do not have the right to allow the blue bastards torture Russia in the liberal zoo!
It is written Priest Alexander Shumsky, a cleric of the temple of St. Nicholas of Myra in Khamovniki.
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MK: What do you think happened during the opening day Icons? It was a spontaneous action, or it was the customer?

SS: It was originally planned to show four exhibitions: Icons, «Beware museum" Vladimir Dubosarsky and Alexander Vinogradov, the project "Mikroterritoriya" Izhevsk art group "City Ustinov" in KISS and an exhibition of local artists Vladimir Migacheva and Valeria Casas in Krasnodar Regional Art Museum. FA Kovalenko, but it was banned. The power is now trying to hide, harbor, not to show the local contemporary art. As for the Icons - there was a clear order of administration.

MK: There is a not very clear to me now. In this region, strong power vertical. The local governor Alexander Tkachev - a man who, according to rumors, it is impossible to argue with anything. Icons exhibition like to do with the support of the governor. But after what happened on the opening day on the sidelines reigns version according to which the order to block the exhibition comes from the same place as the permission to hold it. Gelman demonstrated that in Krasnodar do not want to see either him or contemporary.

SS: In addition to the governor, we still have the vice-governor of Galina Zolin, a local minister of culture and other influential officials. They do not want to here in culture occurred any development, do not want the new bearers and competition. Perhaps Tkachev himself was not aware of this affair. Besides, this is not the first organized campaign against modern art. In April, we passed "antipussing" - campaign against the group Pussy Riot, for spirituality. But interestingly, in the event it were herded employees of local cultural institutions, many of them (we interviewed came) first heard of Pussy Riot. So we can say that what happened on May 15 - a trend, not an isolated incident.
fully here, educate.



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Старый 22.05.2012, 21:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #166
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Last Wednesday, the channel Russia-1 shows the program "historical process" on the Great Patriotic War. Kiselev and his supporters won a complete victory over Svanidze and his assistants. All attempts to belittle Nikolai Karlovich Stalin led to the opposite result. Generally Svanidze reasoning about Stalin, like a man sitting on the neck in a swamp. The more he pulled, the more immersed in the quagmire. By all indications, it is possible to conclude that the de-Stalinization in Russia failed miserably, and it means that very soon be followed by a control shot power hapless bolshelobuyu liberal head. This was the case in our history, in the 20's of last century, when a disheveled nepmen nearly killed our country, and Stalin had to stop a test ride of the NEP control his shot, so that was won by Great Russian victory in 1945.
I can not agree with those authors who believe excessive use of force against the liberal opposition party when it suits, such as "walk test". Russia is not Europe, where resentment of power, as a rule, does not go beyond certain limits. In Russia, everything is done to the max. And if the illegal actions of the liberal opposition is not strictly stop, then each time it will act bolder and bolder, until he broke his neck power. That is, if the Liberals do not suppress, then Russia will inevitably perish. If consistently applied reasonable force to the Liberals, the chance to escape from Russia remains. But we can not give up the slack, as it did in pre-revolutionary Russia. In addition, current liberasty on his personal qualities do not go to any comparison with the revolutionaries of the last century and they are not hard to scare. But if you miss the point, the cowardly pack of jackals can be very dangerous. We have no right to allow the blue bastards torture in Russia liberal zoo!
I stand out.
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Старый 23.05.2012, 00:43 Язык оригинала: Русский       #167
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MK: There is a not very clear to me now. In this region, the strong vertical of power. The local governor Alexander Tkachev - a man who, according to rumors, it is impossible to argue with anything. Exhibition of Icons seemingly was done with the support of the governor. But after what happened at the opening on the sidelines of reigns version according to which the order to block the exhibition are from the same place as the resolution of her conduct. Gelman showed that in Krasnodar not want to see either him or the modern arts.
Not much gets me interested in this topic. But here's an interview please feel there actually is all, themselves, and allowed themselves banned from what actually was clear from the outset. About the fact that Gelman did not know about or something I have already spoken. Here is another interesting place "[COLOR=DarkSlateBlue"] MK: We do not understand not only artistic but also political and social context of the various regions of the country. It is obvious that the situation in Perm is different from the situation in the Krasnodar region. I have a full sense of that Gelman himself is not fully understood how he will interact with the environment.

SS: Speaking of the political context, is a keyword that describes it, - corruption, however, is not only our regional feature.In the field of cultural authority supports the traditional art: folklore, mainly Cossacks, Kuban painting landscapes, genre pictures of the idyllic life of the Cossacks and the Cossack. Naturally, our museums and exhibition halls in the main exhibit of the above. There are practically no alternatives. "This analysis of the cultural" authority supports the traditional art [/COLOR] ". Why and for what people are oriented to traditional bring and show the other, the question you answer yourself. Perhaps the same will help you Surkov, which you defend and say that he did not and with what would be <! - ~ 1 ~ -> An interesting interview with Oleg Kulik on his sculpture, I highlighted some things out there: "[COLOR=DarkSlateBlue"] This is the same statue that three years ago, you put banned in Paris?

- Yes, but I earned it 30,000 dollars for compensation.

- Why the French have banned?

- Mayor of Paris was then does not present a great democrat and gay, and Corsican - and conservative guardian of traditional values. At the last moment, when the machine with the sculpture has traveled from Moscow, he I saw the sketch and said, "What do you mean, then the children will be." She had to stand in a public place - on the Champs Elysees, it was a festival of sculpture on which invited one hundred of the best contemporary artists. I was the only one who was not allowed to put your project. Although the composition is very schematic. It's a pity that did not work a major scandal. There was an alternative - either row or the French buy my other installation and make two of my exhibition. My gallery owner wanted the scandal. But I insisted that I was an artist and that I was a scandalous name is less important than participation in the artistic process. And now one of those shows itself hangs in the City Hall of Paris. And this exhibition - "Family of the Future", the idea is much more scandalous than the "Greenhouse steam." After all, even though it refers to the ethical and social issues, but formally it looks like an act of bestiality poeticized. But if a homosexual could hold the post of mayor, why the artist can not be married to a dog. It looks all very democratic. [/COLOR]http://www.peoples.ru/art/sculpture/kulik/ My friend said that the Yugoslav Montenegro simple believers almost nailed Kulik, but the police intervened. He is there if you believe the story of my friend (he hardly invented) showed performance is not a dead woman, as the Egyptians and the dream of making a living with a goat or a cow did not even remember. Of course, God-fearing believers are simple and they rebelled. Kulik, though in the interview does not say. I'm sorry of course for such details.




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Probably the same Surkov will help you , which you defend and say that he is not and where to be?
I " defend Surkov "?
Whether you are in my mind, comrade?
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I do not really become interested in this topic.
I begin to speculate why.
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You do this question was asked
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SAH, tell me, but it is a normal person wrote ?
And it honestly can not answer you .
What is the cows, goats, and drag in gay mayors .



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Старый 23.05.2012, 01:05 Язык оригинала: Русский       #169
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because you were asked this question
And I was this man? I do not understand the issue.
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and it honestly you can not answer
Do not tell ... I'm not questioning , first of all to answer, you look at how many posts. I'm not a psychologist to determine whether or not a normal person is normal and not a judge to judge . I can say that I was strange what a man wrote this . I do not see what relevance this has to the subject. In general, who is he? <! - 6 ~ ~ ->
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plaited .
I do not drag in ... give a talk on the topic .



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I do not see what relevance this has to the subject.
This is not just a man and priest, cleric of the Moscow church.
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I do not understand the issue.
Okay, try to explain.
I'm in this thread is much higher than wrote the following :
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OK, found Fr " weak minded " is not difficult , I agree that there is no other , and , in my opinion , as among the parishioners .
You are indignant.
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say that all , all Archpriests weak psyche is like? In my opinion a very strange , offensive utterance - statement. So there is also added the congregation .... Gee . All Archpriests weak minded , and parishioners , too <! - 7 ~ ~ -> <! - ~ 9 ~ -> in case ...
Now I've put an excerpt from "preaching " another priest and ask The you of his " normality ."
I now see a pop spitting in the face of the man who brought to his city exhibition of works of art th second - the author of the above words .
You asked a question.
Now my question is this clear ? Logical chain of catch ?



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