How to unleash the artist

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Seriy

Is that true, or is it just seems to me?
T e for a more rapid increase in the cost necessary to create the market works?

You write it right, here's a look from the Russian art market, art, 2006, but still relevant and now ..
Well-known collector, Nikita D. Lobanov-Rostov: "The market for Russian art in Russia is concentrated in the hands of dealers and galleries. The minimum share of the market, about 5%, passes through the auction houses. Outside of Russia abroad, these proportions are mirrored. Auction houses control more than 70%of the antiques market, and this percentage is growing at the expense of dealers. About 50 years ago, dealers were the main buyers at the auctions. Auctions are a kind of "wholesale market" where antique dealers replenish their stocks. With heavy advertising auction houses lure collectors, thereby displacing dealers with their fees for selling products to the customer.

I do not see in Russia a promising market auction of antiques, for the Russian market is insignificant on a global scale, on both prices and quantity of works. In 2003, worldwide sales of auction houses reached $ 6 billion. Every day in London auction houses are selling an average of 2,000 paintings. Plus 500 paintings sold to galleries and dealers, lead to the total in 2500 to sell the painting in the day. This amounts to almost an annual turnover of sales of paintings in Russia, where the market is painting still chaotic and random. It lacks the basic criteria of the art market - the concept of quality and attribution. No stable prices. This fact, in some sense, reflect the profile and current customers - it is less skilled and experienced collectors, and recently wealthy people, nouveaux riches, which are partly naively rely on a constant rise in prices for purchasing them. They are obviously completely take into account the cyclical nature of the art market and it looks like, so get rid of the "random" money in exchange for antiques and art, of course, seeing them as something worthy of investment.
Earn a painting not investors and collectors who have "eyes" and intuition. Art is not subject to the usual rubric as a matter of investment. In contrast, securities or precious metals, paintings - an industry where two pictures are never the same. And judgments about each of them is on the basis of knowledge, aesthetic criteria, the values of the artist in art development. So that the view of the picture completely subjective to the viewer. Investment as a professional or on the advice of a professional is usually based on specific facts. Judgments on the art market such judgments doctor - that is, judged on the basis of historical data plus instincts ... "
http://www.nasledie-rus.ru/podshivka/7113.php

[artcol]

Сообщение от Seriy

T e for a more rapid increase in the cost necessary to create the market works?

What do you mean?

[Seriy]

literally. Increase the number of owners of paintings, for example. When the portrait presents portraits, he not only PR, but also increases the base of the owners of his paintings. The same thing - selling cheap paintings, t e a small, simple or replicable. There will be more pictures in the possession, there will be secondary sales.
 Also, I recently read in the pricing policy for artists - not
be afraid to expand the price range in both directions - let it be, and cheap, and expensive work. This does not discredit the artist, and creates confidence in the fair and reasonable pricing, and as a result, increases sales.
When the work is cheap, then keep their quotation inexpensive.

Picasso was such expansion, he wrote hundreds of so-called "portraits of Dora Mar" - small, simple, repetitive, but a lot. He began to do not with Dora and Marie-Therese, but it does not matter ...

[artcol]

Сообщение от Seriy

Increasing the number of owners of paintings, for example.

A good goal. But who will pay in this case?

Сообщение от Seriy

When the portrait presents portraits, it is not just PR, but also increases the base of the owners of his paintings.

Only celebrities and the powerful of this world.

Сообщение от Seriy

selling cheap paintings, t e a small, simple or replicable. There will be more pictures in the possession, there will be secondary sales.

It is not necessary to enter upon this path. Will not be on it secondary sales. At a cheap painting up one - mess.

Сообщение от Seriy

Picasso was such expansion, he wrote hundreds of so-called "portraits of Dora Mar" - small, simple, repetitive, but a lot. He began to do not with Dora and Marie-Therese, but it does not matter ...

This is a consequence of demand, rather than voluntarism Picasso.

[Fed]

Сообщение от artcol

Do not enter on this path. Will not be on it secondary sales. At a cheap painting up one - mess.

Why so pessimistic? The vast number of paintings mission-scrapyard. Why not try the way forward proposed by Seriy, can get to get past the garbage.

  Especially, the purpose of "not cheap" paintings also called into question. A couple of days ago, carefully examined about twenty very good pictures age 20-40 years at a price of 300-400 euros. Queues of shoppers did not notice (so carefully examined, and why no queue?).

  This sad pack of reminded me of a discussion forum, Why do you have to buy sovr.iskusstvo. I thought that 30 years ago, she was also a present-day. art and artists active floated with them on exhibitions, talked about art and prices ... Some I knew. And now, neither artists nor the price. But regular activity is gold.

[artcol]

Under your question immediately answer

Сообщение от Fed

Why so pessimistic?

Сообщение от Fed

have a huge number of paintings mission-scrapyard.

Сообщение от Fed

Moreover, the purpose of "not cheap" paintings also called into question. A couple of days ago, carefully examined about twenty very good pictures age 20-40 years at a price of 300-400 euros. Queues of shoppers did not notice (so carefully examined, and why no queue?).

Let put on a forum, we also look close.

Artists need to search and then look at the artists found in the workshops of creations. 10%percent, a maximum of 15 such works. But everything else - will be on hand for 300-400 euros, and the queue for this is not, alas, here you are right.

Once there exhibited a collection of dealers from Germany, ponakupivshego during the reconstruction of pictures, but somehow did not get rid of him on a wave of interest in the Russian-Soviet. A lot of work, everything seems to be formatted and select nothing okromya again the same 10%.

[kazerov]

how unpleasant osoznovat it, but you really, at best, only 10%- Art, and the rest is rubbish and my work is no less true of the famous artists.
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why business and is based on names, rather than at work.

[Seriy]

artcol, you look at the process from the perspective of eternity, and absolute values, and I in terms of promotion and salary. Picasso is not the only example, Hurst ponakleil one butterfly on canvas 3 x 3 and has sold a huge number in an auction cheap, for "the people", incident-cheaper. It was very bad from an economic standpoint and in terms of market expansion. And Hirst is still in the trash can not be held, even with the butterflies. And, I'm afraid I'm now in my life can not wait.
On the other hand, I do not believe that a good job painting, from my point of view, the quality sovriska, normal size, any time you can buy cheaply. Every day I look through a lot of work on Artnau and Artmazhere-what? is there a giant painting without a name for nothing? or I'm blind or no. When you put Lyudmila Perez-heart soon faltered, pancake, I imagine the same like :-) But it works, alas, not in vain.


Regarding the reception and the extension of the market is likely to be accurately calculated - when and how.

[artcol]

Сообщение от Seriy

artcol, you look at the process from the perspective of eternity, and absolute values, and I in terms of promotion and salary. Picasso is not the only example, Hurst ponakleil one butterfly on canvas 3 x 3 and has sold a huge number in an auction cheap, for "the people", incident-cheaper. It was very bad from an economic standpoint and in terms of market expansion. And Hirst is still in the trash can not be held, even with the butterflies. And, I'm afraid I'm now in my life can not wait.

Herstovyh butterflies are buying because of the name. Ie first work on the name, and then name to us, first, shark, and then to a butterfly. And suffer, will not suffer - Who knows? May incur

Сообщение от Seriy

On the other hand, I do not believe that a good job painting, from my point of view, the quality sovriska, normal size, any time you can buy cheaply. Every day I look through a lot of work on Artnau and Artmazhere-what? is there a giant painting without a name for nothing? or I'm blind or no. When you put Lyudmila Perez-heart soon faltered, pancake, I imagine the same like :-) But it works, alas, not in vain.

Regarding the reception and the extension of the market is likely to be accurately calculated - when and how.

I am now interested in another question: where all the painting is good, this 10%? Where it fails? "Why not turn a good painting? Where to now personally, I sell it?! More than one work is not surfaced ...

[kazerov]

painting or abstraction, or, or - all methods. is the history of art is art and there are pictures, activities, etc. - (Trying to be art). just need to notice, listen, understand, understand what art is and what it eats. and future developments will keep working as an art (although whether or not). people still do not really able to define what art is, everyone is pushing the fact that it is convenient, but not what that is. talking here about the promotion, again, so that nonsense for the Arts vydovat.