Russian week in London

[LCR]

Сообщение от Tana

artcol you know, I can not call myself a 100%lover and an admirer of socialist realism (because not like everything and not all), because Besides, I love classical Russian painting, the Impressionists, I love Russian avant-garde (but not all in a row, have favorite artists and works) and nonconformists like (although most units), and I do not understand how some forum members dumped into the pile of all the artists who worked in Soviet times and call it junk, is precisely for political reasons, they say worked to order and indulge the regime with everybody and saying nothing to look as "pearls" (which I oboschila their statements), that does not agree with this as soon as possible !!!!! love tolko one thing in art, how can you be such a "unilateral"?

Tanya
I think this is a typical problem of cyber-forum - lots of information scattered in different branches.

I am absolutely confident that if anybody will collect statements of the forum on the socialist realists (but this is a purely theoretical assumption, since no one will make this huge and, in general, sterile work) in different subjects, it will be possible to make sure that wholesale overtones of Soviet artists there.

Specifically, I wrote about his love for Deineko, when were talking about it. I'm awfully fond of Paul Kuznetsova, I really like Schr, Volkov, and many others, but this I did not say, because why anyone should be concerned with my love for a particular artist, but interesting to me to tell them nothing. It is also to ensure that those who talk about his love for the nonconformists, like, maybe much more - small Dutch, for example, or Magnasco, or El Greco (it all - one of my most expensive), but they simply could not be case to tell about it.
In addition, because zde investment forum, the majority of its members are somehow connected with the sale of paintings, and I always think long before you put any material not directly related to that subject, because I'm afraid that he would be considered superfluous or uninteresting or even irrelevant ...

Love all nonconformist, in my opinion, it is simply impossible, I already said (I apologize - but communication on the Internet requires many repetitions, as one does not read all the messages: )) that the name "nonconformists" aesthetically and stylistically neutral, it simply brings together artists who worked outside the official system - although some of them - Tselkov, Kropiwnicki father and son, Tiapushkin, my husband - were members of SC).

In my understanding, the term "socialist realism" denotes all the gigantic and anonymous mass of artists who painted in the plant, prazdenstva, etc., and nekakogo interest or sympathy, they do not cause me.

[DSF]

Сообщение от fross

And we have now nesluchilos or Velazquez, or Renoir, how many names are not sorted out.

Surely there. Sitting somewhere, like Vermeer, quietly wrote himself. Find in 100 years, as usual

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от LCR

You know, I'm sure that there are basically talking about Moscow artists nonconformists simply because drugizh not know.

The same information "failure" suschetsvuet to St. Petersburg "other art", for example, group Aref'eva. Everywhere is the same usual "provincial" history: little information, few books, few exhibitions and PR, no people capable otoobrat strong names and push them to the auction clip. So "Odessa nonconformists" not guilty, just life is so arranged ...

[Tana]

Сообщение от DSF

Surely there. Sitting somewhere, like Vermeer, quietly wrote himself. Find in 100 years, as usual

DSF you beat me with Vermeer, only I thought it as an example to lead.

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Сообщение от Vladimir

The same information "failure" suschetsvuet to St. Petersburg "other art", for example, group Aref'eva. Everywhere is the same usual "provincial" history: little information, few books, few exhibitions and PR, no people capable otoobrat strong names and push them to the auction clip. So "Odessa nonconformists" not guilty, just life is so arranged ...

Vladimir,
Let's fill this informational failure, I was very interested to learn about Otroshchenko, Samvel very interesting about him said, so that you share your knowledge!
LCR:
In addition, because zde investment forum, the majority of its members are somehow connected with the sale of paintings, and I always think long before you put any material not directly related to that subject, because I'm afraid that he would be considered superfluous or uninteresting or even irrelevant ...
LCR do not worry, but put a little more information, all useful, to the same forum and an investment, but Shishkin, Aivazovsky, Malevich, Goncharova and others not at all sufficient (even if finanasy allow, while many not), so that LCR, Vladimir, new names, the information is always interesting

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от DSF

is sitting somewhere, like Vermeer, quietly wrote himself. Find in 100 years, as usual

The case, generally speaking, the unit. It turned out that he was devout admirer, who pulled out a Vermeer to Olympus. From the Dutchman in my opinion is less than 30 papers remained. Similar wonderful discoveries almost never happens. Who else besides Vermeer?

[LCR]

Сообщение от Vladimir

The case, generally speaking, the unit. It turned out that he was devout admirer, who pulled out a Vermeer to Olympus. From the Dutchman in my opinion is less than 30 papers remained. Similar wonderful discoveries almost never happens. Who else besides Vermeer?

He, incidentally, opened the "2 times - the first time in the early 19 th century merchant by the name Le Brun, the husband of artist Vigee-Lebrun (but does not work, then back to its forgotten), and the second time - this time in the 20-m . You knew?

Another Grunewald, whose work up to 30-ies. 19 th century were attributed to Dürer.
We need to think (God, what a painful activity!), I'll find you and others.

Quite different: in my opinion, Arefiev - great artist (so I was handing out labels, well, not anymore!)

[Tana]

Сообщение от Vladimir

The case, generally speaking, the unit. It turned out that he was devout admirer, who pulled out a Vermeer to Olympus. From the Dutchman in my opinion is less than 30 papers remained. Similar wonderful discoveries almost never happens. Who else besides Vermeer?

Vladimir, not in a hurry, budyt ....
Well here already, thank you LCR

[Tana]

Сообщение от OlgaV

Tana!
I hope you are satisfied, this discussion ....

Why not add your views about the Ukrainian "nonconformists" to speak, not without proof:

A. Since you've killed the topic - let's, pictures

OlgaV in his reply to a message from LCR (page 16), I can credit given site, which presents the work of the Odessa nonkomformistov and their biographies, stories about home shows (I do not want to duplicate their answers).
Sorry, but "its views about the Ukrainian" nonconformists "" I do not, knows only the works of Odessa, thanks already specified site.

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Сообщение от OlgaV

Dear Tana!
I hope you are satisfied, this discussion ....
Maybe it is time to stop and give the opportunity to discuss the post, which you broke. Still, I do not answer you, but your opinion, without a doubt - is priceless

OlgaV it would be nice if you would so quickly change their answers, well, that I have quoted, because other members would not understand my previous answer to you.
  Is your answer Eugene was the general forum if you do not want to comment on your response to others, then I think you better respond to personal correspondence, because I think we have all the answers commented on the forum.
PS still has not removed any of his answers or comments, probably because when I write, I think, WHAT I'm writing.

[fross]

Сообщение от Tana

PS still has not removed any of his answers or comments, probably because when I write, I think, WHAT I'm writing.

That's good. And then the messages can not understand.

Сообщение от Tana

LCR do not worry, but put a little more information, all useful, to the same forum and an investment, but Shishkin, Aivazovsky, Malevich, Goncharova and others not at all sufficient (even if finanasy allow, while many not), so that the LCR, Vladimir, new names, information, always interesting

 

Сообщение от Tana

Vladimir, do not hurry, budyt ....
Well already there, thanks LCR

I'm afraid with the investment side Grunewald besperespektiven and his long time at all was not enough You changed the topic, but the meaning is lost in the same tenacity.

[ottenki_serogo]

LCR: "Maybe this is the case Odessa - give a list of names, tell you about Odessa apartment exhibitions, post pictures of work?" - Take care of it.
Creativity Mezhberga, Ostrovsky, Khrushchev, Anufrieva, Strelnikova, Hawk, Kovalenko, Dulfana, Basantsa, Voloshinova, Naumtsev and many other worthy to be represented at the forum.