Plein Air to abstract

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Сообщение от "Novix

Vladimir Novikov, abstracts series" Kamenetz-Podolsk.

Finally see the series.
Thank you!

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Сообщение от Fed

About the "magnificent examples of Futurism" you podzagnuli, especially in the plural.

Will not go away: for example, I see this number futurism, please.

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And yet, these are your "abstractive series" series, gentlemen, with all due respect can not be called Abstract art! I'll try to briefly explain. The fact that abstraction is one way we think and it is peculiar to artistic creativity as such. Appointment of art - to save us in the realm of abstract beauty, help us focus our attention. All that we are in the nature of the abstract or willing to abstract in our mind on the subject or a group of different items with respect to time or space, the art really abstracts, it presents us with an object or a combination of items in such a clarity and coherence, which only allow for the possibility feeling that it should be their due. " As a result of abstraction in art there are generalizations that Lessing found "property of all art" (from the work Babaeva Victoria).

 In abstract art, geometric shapes and colors used to create a whole (independent) product. In other words, harmonize shapeless color combinations and create geometric abstraction. Using them in all their myriad combinations of artist and creates his works! But your ranks are divided into two areas is a "cubism" and "expressionism." Common to all these trends is that they distort the see reality. It also may include for example, "Fauvism". But they all differ in different techniques to achieve visual effects. Abstract art, it is still more radical avant-garde. In which with abstract shapes and colors created something completely new, unparalleled in the subject (apparently) the world. Cubism and Expressionism is only changing the objective world. Violate all the object-spatial relationships and the relationship of the visible world. I should add that in the expressionism of particular importance expressiveness. Agree, there is a significant difference! So we can conclude that what you are doing is not an abstract ART!

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- Well, the citizens of Expressionists, Cubists, Fauves ...
Who wants to work en plein air?

[SHCH]

Tiutchev, thanks!
I waited, the conversation will go on the merits, and I hope
debate goes on.
 Soon. also will express their point of view, as a member
this controversial, but interesting and needed Projects.

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"... Dry theory. And the tree of life eternally green ...", as Goethe said.
When I first heard about this idea that it shkolyarskoe and rectilinear
it seemed to me. But it is so if the problem to solve in the forehead, then there really will be "series", and possibly even slim)), but whether it will be
art? ...
(Sorry, I will write small pieces on as far as possible ...)

"Abstract art is still more radical avant-garde. ..."
Granted, that's why I went that route. Starting with nature studies, site-specific
style close to expressionism ...
But I must say, what about abstract art, I think his art only. when
image carries a certain content, depth, or if they are beautiful, even stain and mazochki, at best, it's decor.
First saw this very beautiful, full of stormy history of the city-fortress that
in a short time to feel his spirit, I am from morning to night with painter's case a few days wandering its streets and steep surroundings, making the free nature studies and photography.
 However, from the very beginning I was not meant to pryamoleneynoe "expansion" of a particular image on the abstract color spots.
Starting with a particular landscape has to compile it using different methods of avant-garde movements. Gradually
  departing from the landscape image, the image of their general, all sorts of impressions of this city, through abstract lines and color.
Each painting, an independent work, but together constitute a "series" of plein-air.

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Сообщение от Tiutchev

And in abstract art, each abstraction (as such) is used as an element to create a whole (independent) product that has no analogues in the objective world and communication with him. and hereinafter referred to ...

I prefer to debate a simple Russian language, without unnecessary pseudo-scientific, but if you are so important - if you please. To quote two authoritative source on this. (Note that the higher the level of knowledge of the scientist, the simpler its language!)
NB Avtonomova - leading researcher of the Museum of Private Collections in Moscow: "The thought of how to get rid of objectivity, has long worried about Kandinsky. He went to THIS KNOWINGLY, persistently step by step. .. But preodalet a familiar artistic consciousness was easy. It took years of study, improving skills, learning theory. Now he aims to "spiritual eye to penetrate into the depths of the universe" and hear her secret great music.
   Abandoning the objective image, Kandinsky develops three types of abstract paintings, which formed the basis of his work. First - it's "impressions" are born from direct experiences "outside of nature", then - "Improvisation" expressing, "mostly unconsciously, most of them suddenly" the internal processes of nature, that is the impression of inner nature. Finally, the "composition". It is in their perennial quest Kandinsky get the most complete embodiment of ...
"Composition" has a beautifully-plastic drammaturgiyu. Work on them was slow and hard. Kandinsky conceived their "composition" as some new worlds emerging as arose space - by disasters, like the chaotic roar of the orchestra, eventually spilling into a symphony, whose name is music of the spheres ... the artist creates a new reality, only perceived emotional -sensual, but it will feel the entire complex, full of great upheaval spiritual world the beginning of XX century. "
Catherine Tar - thin. critic and art historian, author of numerous works on art history: "The improvisations are still visible silhouettes of boats, soldiers, an angel with a sword, the contour of the Heavenly City, in the compositions of 1909-1912 years - Trumpeting Angels and the Leaning Tower: This is the scene of the Apocalypse, you need a real disincarnation Peace to his new transcendent existence. The collapse indicates the force of distraction from the material, which helps the artist see the light true face of the world ... the degree of abstractness defined here is not the intentions of the artist, but the ability of viewers to the same distractions, the ability to "begin to see clearly the subject."
Thus, talk about lack of communication with the external and the spiritual world, at least, strange. The meaning of our project did not clarify the concept of "abstract art". We walked along the path of Kandinsky, each in his own penetrating into the inner essence of objects. The fact that the great artist has been doing for 15 years, we understand the sights up to 15 days. But it was the first, we walked in his footsteps. Although he escaped kubofutorizma, and we went and through it, we can safely repeat his words: "I went through to the abstract expressionism zhivipisi - slowly, over an infinite number of attempts, through despair, hope and discovery." If we are at least a small part managed to do it - we won!

Сообщение от Tiutchev; 1514481"

So we can conclude that what you are doing is not an Abstract art!

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Gentlemen, let us refrain from editing their texts at the time of the discussion.
Sitting at the negotiating table because you are deprived of such opportunities.

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Oh, how I love this sweet touching naivete beginners forum: they have something to be surprised, to represent himself "at the negotiating table" and to call for the noble conduct of the conversation.


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Сообщение от SHCH; 1514521"

the first time he saw this very beautiful, full of stormy history of a fortress city

By the way, yes! Who invented /proposed Kamenetz-Podolsk?

I'm just a glimpse of not reading the threads I saw the title of this wonderful city, so a rack stood up, stiffened internally: "What else is removed, what movie?" <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[Fed]

Сообщение от Tiutchev; 1514501"

we can conclude that what you are doing is not an Abstract art!

Yes, indeed - for the discussion of forgot about the basis of subject matter.
If we assume that the purpose of plein air paintings of the abstract, it is, withdrawal from the creators of ideas and theoretical abstraction, ie, not an abstraction, the definition of the classics:
"Abstract painting is not seeking any reproduction of the external world, in other words, painting is an abstract only in the strict sense, when the picturesque building up is not mixed with the intention to portray something of the objective world - willingly or unwillingly, consciously or No. »Leon Degan

"Abstract art is created next to the" real "new world, apparently has nothing to do with" reality. " Wassily Kandinsky

But if you listen to Michelle Seyfor: "I believe abstract art any art that contains no reminders, no idea about the observed reality, regardless of whether it is a reality or not is the starting point of the artist.", The latest works in abstracts series theoretically can be seen as abstract paintings.

Why theoretically? Because it is believed Kandinsky with whom I completely agree: "If an artist uses abstract means of expression, it does not mean that he is an abstract painter. It does not even mean that he is an artist. There is no less dead triangles (be they white or green) than the dead chickens. "

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[QUOTE="Cyril Syzransky; 1514641]By the way, yes!
Who invented /proposed Kamenetz-Podolsk?[/QUOTE]

Kamenetz offered to our senior partner - Hotel Business Agency and its director, Oleg Sergeyev, there arrived, and other lovers of beauty - the owner of the Gala Hotel, which gave us the resort!)))

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Сообщение от "Cyril Syzransky

- Well, the citizens of Expressionists, Cubists, Fauves ...
Who wants to work in the open air?


Goldbrick

General!
You expressed my call before I did and better than me - it imeeno I was going to say after 2 weeks on the second round in Zaporizhia))) Thank you!

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Сообщение от Fed

" Abstract painting is not seeking any reproduction of the external world, in other words, painting is an abstract only in the strict sense, when the picturesque building up is not mixed with the intention to portray something of the objective world - willingly or unwillingly, consciously or not. "Leon Degan

 Music, too, does not always play sounds from the real world, with
striking impact on listeners, awakens emotions and associations. well and good abstract painting influences the viewer prepared.
Or it will be "dead" circles, squares, spots.