Russian week in London

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Сообщение от Gala

Your "triumph" on page 11

Thank imperceptible obkurilsya probably low-quality grass. Nepoymesh Dverti, the road, then Uel.

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Сообщение от fross

Here you Loosen your Otroshchenko and go to Sotheby's or Christie with his works

Here is another new find. Turns and about Otroshchenko know, but I thought that these artists do not deserve your attention. One proposes to Sodbis, and the other to the country.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от OlgaV

of the sixties (I do not like the name of nonconformists) - looking for a form capable of reflecting their individual, distinct from the generally accepted perception of the world. And let this form is far from academic, and many do not like it, but their work is still "speak", so - their art - contemporary, in contrast to the interior.
If you hang in a series of ten works of academicians-socialist realists of similar subjects and close the signature, I'm afraid, even the experts can not accurately determine authorship. At the same time who confuse Wajsberg with Krasnopevtsev or Zvereva with Yakovlev, or Plavinsky with Sveshnikov, or Rabin with Nemukhin ... etc. Even the theme common to all is difficult to call.

Dear Olga, that you are confused about the terminology to your note of the sixties (in addition to non-conformists) and is Viktor Popkov, Pavel Nikonov, Victor El'konin, Andrei Vasnetsov, Piotr Ossowski, Tair Salakhov, Helium Korzhev, Igor overgrown, Minas Avetisyan, Nikolai Andronov, Boris Messerer and many drugie.Oni were or became academicians, professors and so what?
This world-class paintings, but because of fashion trends they are less popular, forgotten.
Painting of the Sixties in times greater than the quality of painting artists nonkonformistov.Esli be in the PR of the above artists have put at least 5-10%of the loot, which is embedded in the non-conformists .. situation would be different, but without the PR, these talented artists have already taken rightful place in world culture.
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[Сергеич]

Cool. Agree with every word. And by the way those who love socialism, it comes up with the idea to go to live in the present socialist countries? Words that in Europe now socialism - greatly exaggerated. Rather, socialism is going with us now, with the addition of private property in the form of a piece of state officials. Well, little woman from the table to us.

[SAH]

Сообщение от Sergeyitch

And by the way those who love socialism, it comes up with the idea to go to live in the present socialist countries?

Netuzh Luksha you to us

[Tana]

I can not understand why are you all so are flying with the nonconformists, if they are valuable, such champions of freedom of speech, then why all the talk only about Moscow nonconformists??
  But in Odessa was home exhibition nonconformists (and not only in Odessa), so why not a word about them? Are they less valuable, they have not fought for the freedom of speech, instead of fighting against the regime, I think the explanation is one thing, Moscow more untwisted and still continue to unwind, and they do not want "the rivals" even in the fight for the freedom of art, you see how everything is simple, even in the fight against the Soviet regime, someone is "more equal" and "provincial" fighters in any account ....
And no need to reduce the whole to the Socialist Realism paintings of canteens and clubs, industrial landscapes (to me they did not like), but there are beautiful landscapes, still lifes and historical subjects (Sokolov-Rock) written by Soviet academicians, there is impressionistic work that they had in the studio and showed only close people and do not need to "poke" their "rations" and "rations", and do not want to talk about how poor nonconformists had emigrated, not to Siberia, or whether they immigrated to Kazakhstan and how many of them returned to Russia after 90 ????( read somewhere in your notes on this forum that this wave of immigrants did not even communicating with immigrants post-revolutionary, because at first was his love for Russia and the rejection of Bolshevism and in the latter than of malice, nothing was the first staunchly carried the gravity of emigration, and the latter waiting for "the support and benefits" or "brazing and soldering.
For example: anyone and would never talk about the photographs of Leni Riefenstahl, Hitler's favorite actress and the principal director of the National Socialist Party, that she "prisposoblenka and worked for rations, and in fact an example pohlesche than socialist realists, but to still admire her talent, it will not take away.
Of course, "love can not be forced, but I think I have enough" watering "socialist realists, everyone has his own way and your choice and let's respect.

[SAH]

Сообщение от Tana

but I think I have enough "watering" socialist realists,

I saw that the socialist realists polivali.o its way just Validating each spoke and all the others listened and agreed to a nesoglashalis.a odinakovomyslie just and impose on us and our fathers in the days of this glorious socialist realism.

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Сообщение от Tana

everyone has his own way and your choice and let's respect.

so it was difficult not to agree

[Konstantin]

Cool! The intensity of the conversation came to a level that gather us in one room and give to the pistols - shooting started. But for people on the street who never thought about Picasso and others, we are fools, because they're willing to spend serious money on the pictures.

[fross]

Сообщение от Tana

Of course, "love can not be forced, but I think I have enough" watering "socialist realists, everyone has his own way and your choice and let's respect him.

I hope we are still talking about the paintings? If yes, then no policy will not make them more beautiful. No "pouring" the best representatives of socialist realism, on the contrary all recognize their dignity. Objected only when they were trains still wear a legion of authors as equal and priceless, and all of them together are trying to declare a global achievement.

[Tana]

Olga V, a generalized answer to the previous positions of other participants in the forum and your post regarding " Socialist Realism in the table," they are too afraid for their academic titles, rations (and soldering) , for his life, finally, to express in their works at least something different from the "general and guiding line of the CPSU" . but the non-conformists from other regions of the recalled because if the forum and also talk about non-conformists, it's all the same names, and the scope of their much more ....

[fross]

Сообщение от Tana

Olga V, a generalized answer to the previous positions of other participants in the forum and your post regarding "social realism in the table, but the non-conformists from other regions of the recalled because If the forum and also talk about non-conformists, that is all the same names, and their terms are much more ....

Broadening the range again on the principle of political planning? Why may I ask? What would that not sold as Socialist Realism could vparit as non-conformism?