The process for the exhibition "Forbidden Art 2006" is nearing completion

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Well, everything is now "Orthodox community" can calmly "huff" naked aunt and uncle in the Hermitage and the demand to withdraw from the walls of Titian, Rubens, Cranach, Rembrandt ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Well, everything is now" Orthodox community "can calmly" huff "naked aunt and uncle in the Hermitage and the demand to withdraw from the walls of Titian, Rubens, Cranach, Rembrandt ...

A comparison is incorrect. Yes and no longer cry:
Moscow. July 12. INTERFAX.RU - Tagans'kyi Moscow court sentenced a former director of the Sakharov Centre Yuri Samodurov to a fine of 200 thousand rubles. As the correspondent of "Interfax", the second person involved in the case of the exhibition "Forbidden Art 2006", a former department head of contemporary art at the Tretyakov Gallery, Andrei Erofeev need for a court to pay 150 thousand rubles as a penalty.

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Compare incorrectly.

And this is not a comparison.
There is a group of ultra-Orthodox obscurantist who have long demanded to remove from the museums of paintings with nudes.
Just that their ravings nobody did not spread in the media.
Now the situation has changed.
If Mickey Mouse someone insulted or the Order of Lenin on the crucifix (it is interesting, but where to hide their Order of the Orthodox hierarchy? There too much and gebeshnye epaulettes?), The naked aunt even more so.
  "Kids also hodyut, sramatu this look ... Enough defile neokrenshie soul fanatics!"

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In support of the organizers of the exhibition "Forbidden Art" acted as the museum community in Russia.

"I believe that no artists or curators, or art in general should not be subject to criminal penalties. People often see in pictures of what an artist can never mean." Time also makes its own adjustments, and the next generation will generally be understand it, because what we are arguing now, "- said the agency" Interfax "Irina Lebedeva - General Director of the Tretyakov Gallery, which previously worked Andrei Erofeev.

"My firm conviction: that perhaps in private galleries, on experimental grounds, that should not be in public museums. All institutions that operate in contemporary art, has its challenges and its own format, but the experiment is always," - stressed Irina Lebedeva.

She is confident that the creative process can not be strict regulation and can not speak clearly about what is allowed and what is forbidden in art.

"What is forbidden in the 70 years, became a classic of contemporary art and is sold at auction. I'm not saying that in a public space would all, of course not. Permissiveness - it is not freedom in any society has its limitations, but still not criminal, not in relation to art, "- she said.
According to her, modern art concept, and often the main thing is not the image itself, but what is behind it, is implied.
"The important thing to us then all is not sorry for his deed, but it's possible. And then, in our society is a number of problems, indeed a criminal offense, it's not clear why the artists and curators have been the object of criminal proceedings", - said director general of the State Tretyakov Gallery.

Director-General of the National Centre for Contemporary Arts (NCCA) Michael Mindlin believes that the curators of the exhibition in no way at fault and should not be punished.

"Samodurov and Erofeev shows what can not be commented upon as an insult to religious feelings, since these works were shown in a special exhibition space professional showroom. So they can not be condemned," - said Mikhail Mindlin Interfax.

"If a man comes into the Hall of Columns home unions in their underwear, will perceive it as an insult, as if he is in the same form is in the hospital, that is, in a special place, it does not cause any complaints.

Samodurov and Erofeev not go beyond the specialized space, "- he stressed.

Mindlin said that the exhibition was seen as an affront to religious feelings of people of orthodox, conservative views, "but this is not the whole of society, but only part of it."

"Modern art, by definition, provocatively. It generates new ideas, trends, refuting the canonical, traditional ideas about art. In pursuit of people involved in the development of art, we put a cross on the aesthetic development of society", - said General Director of the NCCA.

According to Mindlin, he knows people from the religious, Orthodox environment, which are not found in this exhibition is nothing offensive, but saw it as a completely different meanings. He also noticed that people who were involved in the process for the examination of works on display are not experts in the field of contemporary art, and can not judge these exhibits from the professional point of view.

"After all, if a person breaks a leg, no one will lead to a psychiatrist. So it is here. One of these experts said that only once visited the exhibition of contemporary art, and he remembered that there is plaster falling from the ceiling. Since then he has do not go to exhibitions of contemporary art ", - said director general of the NCCA.

Mindlin reminded that many artists were not understood by his contemporaries and even persecuted, but today are recognized geniuses.

"Society as a not perceived by Rembrandt, the Impressionists believed salon outcasts, avant-garde artists and pursued the ban, and now they admire the whole world" - he concluded.

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.. "The sentence - if you use the same language - I am personally" puts the psycho-traumatic effects and gives me a "moral sufferings," and besides he was "degrading" of my country. The verdict of the judge Alexandrova deals a heavy blow to the reputation of Russia relegating it to the level of some obscurantist eastern states, where people hunt for caricatures of religious content "......
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Ilya Kabakov: - .. "The judicial history - obscurantism, unbelievable idiotic. I want to address the historical perspective of these obscurantist stake in this country and implications for the future. All that is happening now fully integrated into the obscurantist tradition of similar processes in the Soviet Union , as a matter of Sinyavsky, Pasternak, and most closely resembles the story of the Bulldozer Exhibition. In fact, for this there are certain processes, a terrible blow to civilized existence of this country that are shaking it for the past a lot of time.

As always, no one in power no nonsense calculates the consequences of this process - this inability to see some historical precedents. Everything is interconnected today, and this small dirt piles, totally destroying a huge program of international development prospects. We lived in an atmosphere of censorship and the terrible waiting for the ax, which could fall all the time, but then ended the Soviet regime, the country is on the other, democratic, rails - and again the same thing. Touch culture - it touched a live, civilizational dimension of this country ... "
http://www.infosud.ru/judicial_analy...250338281.html

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The writer Grigory Chkhartishvili (Boris Akunin):
.. "The sentence - if you use the same language - I am personally" puts the psycho-traumatic effects and gives me a "moral sufferings," and besides he was "degrading" of my country. The verdict of the judge Alexandrova deals a heavy blow to the reputation of Russia relegating it to the level of some obscurantist eastern states, where people hunt for cartoons religious "......
http://www.rapsi-pravo.ru/judicial_n...250376815.html

[Евгений]

Ilya Kabakov: - .. "The judicial history - obscurantism, unbelievable idiotic. I want to address the historical perspective of these obscurantist stake in this country and implications for the future. All that is happening now fully integrated into the obscurantist tradition of similar processes in the Soviet Union , as a matter of Sinyavsky, Pasternak, and most closely resembles the story of the Bulldozer Exhibition. In fact, for this there are certain processes, a terrible blow to civilized existence of this country that are shaking it for the past a lot of time.

As always, no one in power no nonsense calculates the consequences of this process - this inability to see some historical precedents. Everything is interconnected today, and this small dirt piles, totally destroying a huge program of international development prospects. We lived in an atmosphere of censorship and the terrible waiting for the ax, which could fall all the time, but then ended the Soviet regime, the country is on the other, democratic, rails - and again the same thing. Touch culture - it touched a live, civilizational dimension of this country ... "
http://www.infosud.ru/judicial_analy...250338281.html

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"Orthodox community" outside the courthouse.

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"Samodurov and Erofeev shows what can not be commented upon as an insult to religious feelings, since these works were shown in in a special exhibition space professional showroom. So they can not be condemned" ...

Anyone old man explained that it was for space and what kind of facilities are?

A good sentence, fine. Adequately. That, in my opinion, moaning about the "shame of the country" - the bust. Normal civilized practice.

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