"Black Square" by Malevich: who feels that, looking at this picture

[Pavel]

As you know, Malevich claimed the discovery of a new style of painting and trying to compare this with Picasso, who discovered cubism. Malevich Suprematism has opened in this work. Black square painted on old studies, that is the destruction of the old and the new symbol of the revolutionary art of Soviet Russia.
At school in Vitebsk, where he came to Petersburg, Malevich taught the newest of his discovery and trying to create disciples. Malevich himself a Pole by nationality, and about any links to religion if it did not go, all stretched to a new, brighter future soulmate. Suprematism was a big-style, and smote all areas isukusstva up to wear and was probably still in the architecture.
By the statements of the Malevich, I would not include serious-known that it was not always like this ... candid, he struggled, but not with authority, and for leadership in the arts. The actor, a great artist.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

[Peter]

For me, the Cheka is Bolshevism in art, or rather its mental suschnost.Nravitsya it or not it is neutral as a fact, he is (as if it does not apply). Denial of art "Freaks" which was (of God) and the creation of new monsters . Anything that is created under the influence or the auspices of the KGB, heartless and inhumane though perhaps most accurately describes a dark mental space as one of the foundations of the existing mirozdaniya.ChK-as an expression of art through the Art of the Apocalypse!

[DSF]

I'll tell you what I feel when looking at the Cheka. It's simple: "Yes, well taken two color relationships - a complex and complicated white black. That's all . "In the world there are a lot more interesting with a picturesque view pictures, which can be considered a very long time and find every time something new for themselves. Therefore, these experiments rapidly Malevich left and returned to the "old way", because bored, gentlemen, in harmony only two relationships, I want to set ourselves and to solve more complex pictorial task. And this is only possible within the figurative. Non-objectivity in art quickly bored. As Pushkin said: "The mind can not be satisfied with some toys, harmony, imagination requires pictures and stories.

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от tchaika

In the years 1919-1922 Kasimir Malevich taught at the National Art School "a new revolutionary model" in Vitebsk.
"We set ourselves: - wrote Leonid Katsis, -" What could it mean the expression "black square on a black background, black square on a white background", etc. for young artists Vitebsk Jews who had lived his entire life in the Jewish Province ? How were they perceive the subject (and object of it?), If they themselves wrote: "Wear a black square ..."? Nothing at least 5 times a week they had seen, if not used ourselves, it is an object that represents the "black cube on a black square background. This tefillin - a ritual object worn Jews at prayer. Clearly, a black cube on a black background, and give us the desired "black square on a black background, - Leonid Katsis in the Ideology of the Vitebsk UNOVIS (affirmative modern times), the Temple and the Talmud." The same author records the fact of wearing the black squares "by some participants suprematistskogo movement.
Photo: Traditional Jewish tefillin in the form of 2 black cubes with the sacred texts inside: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A7%...80%D0%B0%D1%82

"Square" played a role in the design of Malevich's funeral. He died at Leningrad in 1935 during a funeral on an open platform of the truck with the image of the black square on the hood was installed suprematic coffin, like a sarcophagus. On the testament of Malevich, his body was cremated in the coffin Suprematism, and then the urn was buried near the village of Nemchinovka. Over the grave was set cubic concrete monument depicting the black square ».

This Leonid Katsis written nonsense that tore across the internet, and you repeat this nonsense! This is a blatant ignorance! Speculations on this topic more serious than the text (a big minus Internet)! Before writing about the Russian Avant-garde advise to consider. Kazimir Malevich was not a Jew, and a Pole ... His father - Malevich Severin Antonovich was a Pole and a gentleman ...

If you want to understand the problems of Russian avant-garde, I recommend to read the article by Alexandra Shatskih.
 
Start with this:

"Among the pioneers were artists of various nationalities - the cultural life of the Russian Empire absorbed the activities of representatives of many nationalities inhabiting its vast territories. Glory of Russian art forged a Polish Kasimir Malevich, the Russian Wassily Kandinsky and Mikhail Larionov, Italian Ivan Puni, Ukrainians and Alexandra Exter, Alexander Archipenko, George Yakulov Armenian, Jewish Marc Chagall, Natan Altman, Lazar Lissitzky and others. "

 
"Among the actors of the first stage of Russian avant-garde (line 1900 - 1910-ies) attended by a number of artists of the Jews by blood, but the national artistic idea is by no means dominated their art."

"Appeal to their own national cultural heritage was a very remarkable feature of the avant-garde art in Russia (in parentheses I note that the innovators, the Europeans were not so tied to the national archaic, often preferring the archaic human, exotic art of primitive tribes and peoples). Left Russian artists proclaimed in his declaration: "We look forward to the Orient and to draw attention to the national art <...> We protest against the slavish subordination to the West, returns to us our own forms in eastern and vulgarization of the form and leveled." ( Mikhail Larionov. Preface /catalog exhibition of paintings by artists' group "Target." M., 1913 .) Underneath these words with conviction can subscribe and young painters Jewish.

In search of ancestry figures Russian avant-garde centered in ancient art and native folk culture and seeing them as the basis and guarantee of their own identity. Ancient icons, vulgar splints, painting vyvesochnikov and unknown painters, decorative painting household items were the subject of their scrutiny. Own the same creativity Larionov, Goncharova, Malevich, Kandinsky, partly fueled by those sources that are radically different from the stylization of trends in the works of Russian artists of previous generations, also drew inspiration from the treasures of national culture (ie, master, grouped around Abramtsevo, Talashkin and other centers revival of folk crafts). Several anticipating the presentation, stressing that two similar stage in his address to the national folk art - stylization and organically-art - was destined to survive and a young Jewish artists, but not consistently, but at the same time. "

Alexandra Shatskih. "The Jews in the Russian Avant-garde»

[Сима]

In fact, the shiny black cube tefillin - very Suprematic thing.
I heard this text "colleagues Katsis" (a common treatment for hot scientific discussion) from his own lips at the meeting of the Commission on the vanguard of the Institute of Art many years ago. A.S Shatskih they do not remember, but remember how the late Marina Bessonova drew participants' attention and, of course, the author of the report that such a comparison of forms and meanings that are interesting and fruitful in professional circles that were released to freedom, may be grounds for insinuations. That and we have.
Report Katsis was interesting, brought a representative collection of art criticism in confusion and surprise. Katsis resisted weakly, as not owned by Jewish material. On the other hand, were afraid to offend. However, one elderly lady once extravagant behavior "chopped", that she generally deplores the division of Poland. But a more constructive argument as I do not remember.
Now, colleague Katsis. Scold him not to. Free scientific thought blowing (or hovers?), Where he wants. He was a great connoisseur of Jewish mothers, and sometimes scientific intervention fruitful. For example, I heard his report on the "right-hand side panels Chagall's" Introduction to Jewish Theatre. "On the one where the man urinating on a pig. Then it (Katsis) reflection seemed to me persuasive, and answered my questions about the inner-right-left in the Jewish art, book, especially the chart. So do not throw Katsis from the tub with your child.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от DSF

I'll tell you what I feel when you look at the Cheka. It's simple: "Yes, well taken two color relationships - a complex and sophisticated white black. That's all . "In the world there are a lot more interesting from a picturesque point of view of art that can be considered for a long time and find every time something new for themselves. Therefore, these experiments rapidly Malevich left and returned to the "old way", because bored, gentlemen, in harmony only two relationships, I want to set ourselves and to solve more complex pictorial task. This is possible only within the figurative. -Objectivity in art quickly bored. As Pushkin said: "The mind can not rest on some toys, harmony, imagination requires pictures and stories».

You heard the sound, but do not know where he is. On the found relationship, I said a long time and you're probably thinking that all was forgotten. Symptom talented colorist-feel attitude. On the felt, and was the best colorist, as can be ascertained from his works in the same Tretyakov Gallery, if they go somewhere not sent. And that's what I said. I talked about the fact that ch.k. together with a red circle and together can build anything in space and perspective, and this is Suprematism. All mysticism and politics arises on the basis of limited knowledge.
These cubes are black, but there is some text from the Talmud or the Bible, who both love and all . "And you would think .....

[киса]

as long (and very long) all the "dumateli fine" I think that, as the categories of "circle" and "square" (climb far will not, "brake" on sezanistah. formulates). That does not really understand what is proposed to think again?
In this very conversation uvlekateonoy saw one, so to say, Warrior (Mr artist), who asked him to tell (if I understood correctly) the dignity of the work of the Cheka, as works of art without going beyond the traditional to this perspective, the terminology (I would have, of itself, added - conclusively suggest a <!--~ ~-->)))
This was not done by any of the existents. (
" remarkable figurative works ", as pischet LSR I unfortunately do not know (; "pr otestov against chernokvadratury " "(NATA NOVA) are not noticed,
" opened new horizons to the brink of literally everything including the iso. The art of architecture, etc. ." (SAH) - is not the vocabulary (gazetnaya. ..
Incidentally, the question of Alphonse Allais (type: is nonsense, it's funny ") is not so funny, because the fact-that place had. Fact and interpritatsiya - two different things;
Here kr555: "But Malevich, unlike all its forerunners created the box at the right time and in the right place, where his child could get proper assessment and make the right suckers . ' It speaks of the time, place, but not about the product;
SAH and stuck a piece of the icon ... Why? black spots around a lot and without Sakran)
Art-lover: " caused the crystallization of supersaturated solution of certain artistic searches " Then there was telecom and " yzvat crystallization " was not as easy as now seems. Well, " ideal psychoanalytic object, effectively identifying the dominant subconscious: the remnants of children's fears, aggressiveness, anxiety, activity of creativity " - rather psychedelic text than talk basically.
Excuse me, SAH, but: " between art and create art again - a big difference. ", yet eerie banality, at least a century, at the time limitation. Too bad you did not agree.
About evreystae I komentiruyu ...
And here: " felt was the best colorist, as can be ascertained from his works in the same Tretyakov Gallery, if they go somewhere you do not send " (Pavel) and why they were to send?) And this " best colorist "... "best", than who? If you can (about feeling relationship I have read) have any proof? Who in the next room "felt"? How many were there?
Regarding the impact on all ... " was the Bauhaus was different ... " Look at the building of the Technical College of Applied Arts, in its capacity ... It is not obvious who is and who influenced, and that 1904-1906 years (Van de Velde)
On the whole dispute with one hand and meaningless and so beautiful, on the other - would like more specificity in the definitions. The dealer should know the subject, I think, but not rukodstvovatsya passion. So you can burn through)))
Excuse me, gentlemen, if tired. Too bad, except for two, three authors, all the rest have ignored the topic ...

Please forgive me, gentlemen all unnamed parties) Nades, another reason to be)

[Pavel]

Сообщение от pussycat

since long (very long) all the "dumateli fine" I think that, as the categories of "circle" and "square" (climb far will not, "Brake" on sezanistah. Formulates),. That does not really understand what is proposed to think again?
In this very conversation uvlekateonoy saw one, so to say, Warrior (Mr artist), who asked him to tell (if I understood correctly) the dignity of the work of the Cheka, as works of art without going beyond the traditional to this perspective, the terminology (I would have, of itself, added - conclusively suggest a <!--~ ~-->)))
This was not done by any of the existents. (

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" remarkable figurative works ", as pischet LSR I unfortunately do not know (; "pr otestov against chernokvadratury " "(NATA NOVA) did not notice;
" opened new horizons to the brink of literally everything including the iso. The art of architecture, etc. ." (SAH) - is not the vocabulary (gazetnaya. ..
Incidentally, the question of Alphonse Allais (type: is nonsense, it's funny ") is not so funny, because the fact-that place had. Fact and interpritatsiya - two different things;
Here kr555: "But Malevich, unlike all its forerunners created the box at the right time and in the right place, where his child could get proper assessment and make the right suckers . ' It speaks of the time, place, but not about the product;
SAH and stuck a piece of the icon ... Why? black spots around a lot and without Sakran)
Art-lover: " caused the crystallization of supersaturated solution of certain artistic searches " Then there was telecom and " yzvat crystallization " was not as easy as now seems. Well, " ideal psychoanalytic object, effectively identifying the dominant subconscious: the remnants of children's fears, aggressiveness, anxiety, activity of creativity " - rather psychedelic text than talk basically.
Excuse me, SAH, but: " between art and create art again - a big difference. ", yet eerie banality, at least a century, at the time limitation. Too bad you did not agree.
About evreystae I komentiruyu ...
And here: " felt was the best colorist, as can be ascertained from his works in the same Tretyakov Gallery, if they go somewhere you do not send " (Pavel) and why they were to send?) And this " best colorist "... "best", than who? If you can (about feeling relationship I have read) have any proof? Who in the next room "felt"? How many were there?
Regarding the impact on all ... " was the Bauhaus was different ... " Look at the building of the Technical College of Applied Arts, in its capacity ... It is not obvious who is and who influenced, and that 1904-1906 years (Van de Velde)
On the whole dispute with one hand and meaningless and so beautiful, on the other - would like more specificity in the definitions. The dealer should know the subject, I think, but not rukodstvovatsya passion. So you can burn through)))
Excuse me, gentlemen, if tired. Too bad, except for two, three authors, all the rest have ignored the topic ...

Please forgive me, gentlemen all unnamed parties) Nades, another reason to be)

Send something where the exhibition abroad.
Go and look. He is the brightest in the hall in the wing on the floor .. and it must be able to, because he has the harmony, but when others try to write clearly, they do gaudy. This is well illustrated by Matisse and Malevich in too.

[SAH]

Сообщение от Kish

SAH stuck a piece of the icon ... Why? black spots around a lot and without Sakran)

Сообщение от SAH

I of minimalism, concept and deep symbolism.

Сообщение от Kish 1161491

the whole dispute with one hand and meaningless and so beautiful, on the other - would like more specificity in the definitions. The dealer should know the subject, I think, but not rukodstvovatsya passion. So you can burn through

Spore, I noticed everyone expresses his opinion - the impression specifics subjective in our subject, dealers also tend oochen passionate. Fold up easily, who does not risk that does not drink ...