Painting or Gold? That is the question - Страница 14 - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

John Preston · 05.03.2015, 17:27

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unfortunately, the question Painting or gold? response as the residents of Russia and Ukraine, today there can be only one

A true collector would be better to save the other, but will not deny myself the pleasure to buy a painting in the collection, or am I wrong?

This question is more rhetorical - out of context about the state of our economies...

mihailovoh · 05.03.2015, 17:31

[QUOTE=John Preston;3397761]Alexander, I wonder why You of the themes in the theme distribute the same pessimistic advice. Every man for himself decides what and when to buy or not. Personally I bought and continue to buy what I find interesting. And all the talk about the crisis, indeed, "Pro-poor". This is my IMHO@
Kirill there is a saying-do not let your God to live in a time of change.
During my life I have successfully survived all the previous crises.the experience there.
Today in Russia, and not only ("transition") - financial.the economic.political.ideological crisis.
To buy need only sign.Museum level, or without which is not exactly Abadessa work.They have investment potential.And a lot of that.what's popular.will sink in the summer and will be forgotten.

John Preston · 05.03.2015, 17:37

[QUOTE=mihailovoh;3398021]Kirill there is a saying-do not let your God to live in a time of change.
During my life I have successfully survived all the previous crises.the experience there.
Today in Russia, and not only ("transition") - financial.the economic.political.ideological crisis@

Well the last two crisis I found in active age, though younger.

I just guided by the principle of Alice in Wonderland, which talked about the following:

"We have to run just to stay in the same place! If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast!"

You should try to "spin", and then, perhaps, will not be tempted to ascribe everything to the crisis, low purchasing power, low salaries, pensions, etc.

mihailovoh · 05.03.2015, 17:52

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Well the last two crisis I found in active age, though younger.

True.I don't need to "spin".Collect.give exhibitions.....For the soul.for grandchildren and for the sake of respect for the talent of the Artist.
Today, with pleasure I would give 3-5-10 works for ONE.and it is done.

wasya · 05.03.2015, 17:55

Is there a direction which does not lose in price during Econ. crises? Here's the silver spoon is not defended, fell in price together with the rate.
Can be considered art objects made of gold or bronze?

mihailovoh · 05.03.2015, 18:00

wasya,
You hinted.Silver.gold and even painting.....this is the one.
And cool Antiques.Museum level for painting .it is another.It is this "other" and does not lose in value in any crisis.

Маруся · 06.03.2015, 00:32

[QUOTE="тандем;3397671"]If you want to save money ,buy damn you dollari@

Absolutely a win-win option for those damn dollars can and painting, and gold to buy. And even in Ukraine...

Sehfir · 06.03.2015, 02:04

[QUOTE=Маруся;3398341]Absolutely win-win situation - for those damn dollars can and painting, and gold to buy. And so in Ukraine@
Good advice!
Hello everyone.
On the subject of.
There is a rule for the private investor: investing in gold is not more than 10% of the planned investment. Is simple - to sell with a profit only once in five or ten years

on the other hand, gold is a universal airbag with high liquidity. Can save the investor from "margin Cola (it happens not only in Forex) in the event of a liquidity crisis on other investments. In particular in art.
Now the gold to buy profitable, but you must be willing to "forget" about it for two or three years. With respect.

Sehfir · 06.03.2015, 02:09

[QUOTE=mihailovoh;3398081]wasya,
You hinted.Silver.gold and even painting.....this is the one.
And cool Antiques.Museum level for painting .it is another.It is this "other" and does not lose in value if any critise@
Alas, loses and how. It happens suddenly... money becomes very expensive. Yesterday's patrons are going bankrupt, and the new has not yet arrived. And like the Museum level, and everyone says " don't give, and only money, well at least some, need today. It happens more often than we would like. With respect.

Sehfir · 06.03.2015, 02:14

[QUOTE=John Preston;3398011]True collector would be better to save the other, but will not deny myself the pleasure to buy a painting in the collection, or am I wrong?

This question is more rhetorical - out of context about the state of our economies gosudarstv@
Wrong, because we already all happened, and you have only just begun. Yesterday was like buy not expensive (10 times cheaper than in 2009), and tomorrow begin to understand that the same "expensive".

And suggestions all come and go.... And that is typical - like everything!

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05.03.2015, 17:31	Язык оригинала: Русский #132
mihailovoh Гуру Регистрация: 08.11.2009 Адрес: РФ Ростов на Дону Сообщений: 1,240 Спасибо: 3,484 Поблагодарили 2,079 раз(а) в 738 сообщениях Репутация: 4140	[QUOTE=John Preston;3397761]Alexander, I wonder why You of the themes in the theme distribute the same pessimistic advice. Every man for himself decides what and when to buy or not. Personally I bought and continue to buy what I find interesting. And all the talk about the crisis, indeed, "Pro-poor". This is my IMHO@ Kirill there is a saying-do not let your God to live in a time of change. During my life I have successfully survived all the previous crises.the experience there. Today in Russia, and not only ("transition") - financial.the economic.political.ideological crisis. To buy need only sign.Museum level, or without which is not exactly Abadessa work.They have investment potential.And a lot of that.what's popular.will sink in the summer and will be forgotten.

05.03.2015, 17:37	Язык оригинала: Русский #133
John Preston Гуру Регистрация: 16.09.2008 Адрес: Россия, Москва Сообщений: 3,743 Спасибо: 3,809 Поблагодарили 1,854 раз(а) в 969 сообщениях Репутация: 3694	[QUOTE=mihailovoh;3398021]Kirill there is a saying-do not let your God to live in a time of change. During my life I have successfully survived all the previous crises.the experience there. Today in Russia, and not only ("transition") - financial.the economic.political.ideological crisis@ Well the last two crisis I found in active age, though younger. I just guided by the principle of Alice in Wonderland, which talked about the following: "We have to run just to stay in the same place! If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast!" You should try to "spin", and then, perhaps, will not be tempted to ascribe everything to the crisis, low purchasing power, low salaries, pensions, etc.

05.03.2015, 17:55	Язык оригинала: Русский #135
wasya Пользователь Регистрация: 27.07.2011 Адрес: Санкт-Петербург Сообщений: 30 Спасибо: 2 Поблагодарили 3 раз(а) в 3 сообщениях Репутация: 6	Is there a direction which does not lose in price during Econ. crises? Here's the silver spoon is not defended, fell in price together with the rate. Can be considered art objects made of gold or bronze?

05.03.2015, 18:00	Язык оригинала: Русский #136
mihailovoh Гуру Регистрация: 08.11.2009 Адрес: РФ Ростов на Дону Сообщений: 1,240 Спасибо: 3,484 Поблагодарили 2,079 раз(а) в 738 сообщениях Репутация: 4140	wasya, You hinted.Silver.gold and even painting.....this is the one. And cool Antiques.Museum level for painting .it is another.It is this "other" and does not lose in value in any crisis.

06.03.2015, 00:32	Язык оригинала: Русский #137
Маруся Гуру Регистрация: 24.05.2009 Сообщений: 1,972 Спасибо: 4,937 Поблагодарили 4,308 раз(а) в 1,547 сообщениях Репутация: 8082	[QUOTE="тандем;3397671"]If you want to save money ,buy damn you dollari@ Absolutely a win-win option for those damn dollars can and painting, and gold to buy. And even in Ukraine...

06.03.2015, 02:04	Язык оригинала: Русский #138
Sehfir Пользователь Регистрация: 04.10.2014 Сообщений: 49 Спасибо: 3 Поблагодарили 12 раз(а) в 8 сообщениях Репутация: 24	[QUOTE=Маруся;3398341]Absolutely win-win situation - for those damn dollars can and painting, and gold to buy. And so in Ukraine@ Good advice! Hello everyone. On the subject of. There is a rule for the private investor: investing in gold is not more than 10% of the planned investment. Is simple - to sell with a profit only once in five or ten years on the other hand, gold is a universal airbag with high liquidity. Can save the investor from "margin Cola (it happens not only in Forex) in the event of a liquidity crisis on other investments. In particular in art. Now the gold to buy profitable, but you must be willing to "forget" about it for two or three years. With respect.

06.03.2015, 02:09	Язык оригинала: Русский #139
Sehfir Пользователь Регистрация: 04.10.2014 Сообщений: 49 Спасибо: 3 Поблагодарили 12 раз(а) в 8 сообщениях Репутация: 24	[QUOTE=mihailovoh;3398081]wasya, You hinted.Silver.gold and even painting.....this is the one. And cool Antiques.Museum level for painting .it is another.It is this "other" and does not lose in value if any critise@ Alas, loses and how. It happens suddenly... money becomes very expensive. Yesterday's patrons are going bankrupt, and the new has not yet arrived. And like the Museum level, and everyone says " don't give, and only money, well at least some, need today. It happens more often than we would like. With respect.

06.03.2015, 02:14	Язык оригинала: Русский #140
Sehfir Пользователь Регистрация: 04.10.2014 Сообщений: 49 Спасибо: 3 Поблагодарили 12 раз(а) в 8 сообщениях Репутация: 24	[QUOTE=John Preston;3398011]True collector would be better to save the other, but will not deny myself the pleasure to buy a painting in the collection, or am I wrong? This question is more rhetorical - out of context about the state of our economies gosudarstv@ Wrong, because we already all happened, and you have only just begun. Yesterday was like buy not expensive (10 times cheaper than in 2009), and tomorrow begin to understand that the same "expensive". And suggestions all come and go.... And that is typical - like everything!