Vekselberg has accused Christie's in counterfeit trade

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Boring composition (as disorderly soldiers on the parade ground), a poisonous yellow (where are you saw in Mashkova? Mashkov always warm, but not poisonous), awry left pot (Ilya Ivanovich actually knew how to draw ) etc.
This is absolutely "botanical" Still Life, of which Mashkov, nobody ever wrote.
"Botanical" picture writing, say, Stanislav Yulianovich Zhukovsky (flowers on the window, shoots, remember?), But not Mashkov.

The work sold at SodBi, almost one to one, as the famous painting Konchalovsky "Gladiolus" 1912g.GRM ..
1.P.Konchalovsky.
2. 'I. Mashkov "

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Eugene

ers.
The work was sold at SodBi, almost one to one, as the famous painting Konchalovsky "Gladiolus"

By the way, a good example.
Brilliant, charming painting of the great Konchalovsky - and waning, almost disciplic, screaming picture of a Belgian with a completed kontrazhurom emptiness ...

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

I do not know who bought that "Mashkova, but I know that this is not Mashkov

I have exactly the opposite. I know who is buying and for whom (unfortunately I can not reveal this information), but I think that before purchasing these people watching this still life very carefully.

All the same, thank you for your information. Could Unfold this topic in another category, but it turns out that after the 3-5 pages of posts in the topic of all forget about the theme itself and starts very often not ethical chaotic skirmish of words?
I think that if your words have a real basis, it could be another major scandal involving big names. Bidding took place in December 2005, so there is still time before the expiration of the warranty.

Thank you.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

Leave can be anything.

Yes, probably, but if the auction house was not in the auction catalog of the exhibition in 1913, to find it (albeit in digital form) the case for 5 minutes. No? 2,136,000 GBP worth of wasted time?

Added after 7 minutes
Igor Guriev, sometimes I think that your address: city P .- This kind of P estovo or P touchstone of urban-type P ervo-P artizansky.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Yes, probably, but if the auction house was not in the auction catalog of the exhibition in 1913, to find it (albeit in digital form) case 5 minutes.

I am even sure that the catalog of the City Museum was the word "Still Life".

Only question is, what is still life?

You do not remember how then decorations for directories?

And the thing - one hundred percent oversubscribed.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

but if the auction house was not in the auction catalog of the exhibition 1913

Yes, indeed with cataloging at the time was not as easy as today. Often, among the exhibited at an exhibition of paintings, which are dozens or even hundreds, in the catalog was a list of paintings and only 10-15 h /w reproductions.

But one big BUT. Almost always in the picture after the show remained as follows: - a label with the details of the exhibition. In this situation, two of them - a label with the Society of Artists exhibition Jack of Diamonds with the number 46 and signature Mashkov, and a sticker with contemporary art exhibitions in the Stedelijk Museum in Amsterdam, which took place in 1913. Behind the canvas № 9 and painting in Latin, perhaps it after Amsterdam.

Dear Igor Guriev, so who to believe - past exhibitions, labels (these data can be verified with absolute certainty), specialists from Sotheby's, and their conclusions, inventory, comparisons with Konchalovsky (ie with gladioli 1912), with Gabriele Munter, or listen to your personal, perhaps very subjective opinion?

Photo - two stickers on the back of the picture.

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от Eugene

job to sell on SodBi, almost one to one, as famous painting Konchalovsky "Gladiolus" 1912g.GRM ..
1.P.Konchalovsky.
2. 'I. Mashkov "

To have your photo added another for comparison. The work of Gabrielle Munter. Nothing surprising in similar colors and style no. Time was so. This is not the only parallels in style here and social connections. Gabriele Munter Kandinsky was a partner and from time to time they lived together in the Russian House in Murnau.
The creative ways these artists often overlap, together they solved some problems in the art. With Munter was very close and Yavlensky, so in 12-13 years of their work seems full of the same color. Therefore, Sotheby's and took to compare these three works - Mashkova, Munter and "Gladiolus" Konchalovsky.

Photo:
1 - Work Gabriele Munter Still life with a chair.
2 - Mashkov
3 - Konchalovsky


may still be moved to another topic? Subject Vekselberg very important, should reflect as close to her the contents.

[Игорь Гурьев]

You know, Comrade OlegTsi, to me that purchases do not care, I'm at it I do not have relations.

I'll comment and referred to the opinions of people whom I respect enormously.

It was not me, but they told me their opinions about this movie.

And I agreed.

And what will happen next, I'm not interested ...

In our opinion you have read, and then Proceed as you want ...

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

I know that this is not Mashkov

Dear Mr. Igor Guriev, maybe you should not have to talk about it Mashkov, since your conviction pererodpisannoy picture turned into your personal opinion, which was based on the opinions of others.

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

referred to the opinions of people whom I really respect

Now, with your opinion read not only I have seen it all, who reads this very important topic instructive.

I'm not going to criticize your statements and your opinion respected people. You have every right to believe any prislushyvatsya and give your all right. But the view - it is not knowledge. You just think that this work Mashkova - fake, but no reasons you do not.
 
Just imagine, please, there would be a scandal in connection with this work between the owner and Sotheby's. I'm sure it would be very bright and interesting history, the more a topic for discussion at the forum. And You:

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

And what will happen next, I'm not interested ...

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

It's not me, but they told me your opinion about this picture.

How? In the bushes? None of my business ...?

I, personally, from you this is not expected.