Вернуться   Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство > English forum > Chatter
 English | Русский Forum ARTinvestment.RU RSS Регистрация Дневники Справка Сообщество Сообщения за день Поиск

Chatter General discussion.

Ответ
 
Опции темы Опции просмотра
Старый 10.06.2010, 20:51 Язык оригинала: Русский       #121
Бывалый
 
Аватар для Любознательный
 
Регистрация: 10.04.2010
Сообщений: 301
Спасибо: 470
Поблагодарили 326 раз(а) в 132 сообщениях
Репутация: 653
По умолчанию It's time to dot the i

First of all, I was very pleased with the moral support of Anastasia Alferova by members of the forum. I started to deal with its problems specifically, why ask in the future does not simulate the situation, because the opposing party has the opportunity to read this forum.
    Discussion on the situation Alferova revealed the vulnerability of the artist to arbitrariness of gallery. So, what happened to Alferova is not private, and the general case. The main reason for going, in my opinion, is the legal illiteracy of artists, which so far with impunity enjoyed by gallery owners.
     Instead of friendly partnership (which must take place between the artist and gallery) had the boorish attitude of the artist in order to maximize exploitation of the products of its work without regard to its legitimate rights and interests.
    Rudeness, prosperous society, has not spared our forum. No administrative action can not alter the relationship between the forum users, turning them into respectful and friendly. It is only by ourselves. So need to raise this issue until until no longer exist grounds for discussion. However, this does not mean the right one nuzzle others. Do not need nikaya specifics so as not to wake the squabble. You just need everyone to check their positions on the arrogance and peremptorily. And remember the words of the poet that something is worse than a gun.
     In reaction to the superficiality and peremptory tone was, in my opinion, smart, brilliant in conception and execution of test Ranzhera. However, such tests, in my opinion, good for "Pavilions".
     And finally - on titles. There is a hierarchy of ranks and in art.
In my opinion, it is unacceptable substitute disguised pseudonyms stroybatovskogo wing. It's time to end the bias against vnovprihodyaschim to the forum. See what happens. At the forum mass of people, but the discussions involved only a few dozen people. Not afraid to get a nose allows for the participation of others? Random people on the forum almost no, everyone has something to say.
     I believe that the friendly and caring attitude towards vnovpribyvshim will more fully discuss the main themes of the forum. Given that the subject viewed by many members of the forum, I hope to have the correct attitude towards each other.
You do not agree with me?



Любознательный вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Эти 12 пользователя(ей) сказали Спасибо Любознательный за это полезное сообщение:
alferova (12.06.2010), dedulya37 (11.06.2010), K-Maler (07.04.2014), luka77 (10.06.2010), NATA NOVA (10.06.2010), prosto_valentina (07.04.2014), sur (18.07.2010), Veronic (10.06.2010), Варвара (17.08.2010), Магнолия (07.04.2014), Сима (10.06.2010)
Старый 07.04.2014, 11:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #122
Злой санитар форума
 
Аватар для Grigory
 
Регистрация: 31.07.2008
Сообщений: 4,629
Спасибо: 10,986
Поблагодарили 4,674 раз(а) в 1,801 сообщениях
По умолчанию

Received a letter from Inna Khegai :
Цитата:
Good day!
I want to ask anyone who knows the whereabouts of the artist's daughter Sergei Alferov Nasty or her new contact numbers, contact me by phone . (499) 230-11-61 or by e-mail inana@list.ru

Accidentally discovered in this thread your name associated with the hard-hitting discussion of the situation , was surprised by the unreliability of information. I knew and helped the late Sergei Alferov , with his daughter was not personally acquainted . How it all happened in reality, can learn from me in person, by writing to the e-mail or by phone .
Mail address specified during registration Nastya forum , I already told ...
__________________
Должен кончиться любой бой.
Победит, сомненья нет, свет.
Я возьму букет цветов-слов,
И раздам моим друзьям - Вам!



Grigory вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Этот пользователь сказал Спасибо Grigory за это полезное сообщение:
Люси (07.04.2014)
Старый 07.04.2014, 13:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #123
Пользователь
 
Регистрация: 25.02.2010
Адрес: Москва
Сообщений: 39
Спасибо: 2,713
Поблагодарили 44 раз(а) в 20 сообщениях
Репутация: 88
По умолчанию

Цитата:
Сообщение от Pecheneg Посмотреть сообщение
if you dear Lucy, said the widow to this gallery as well and talk to the owner, not the employees, then the situation will be resolved on the spot.
Oy-yoy-oh!
I very much doubt.



prosto_valentina вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Этот пользователь сказал Спасибо prosto_valentina за это полезное сообщение:
Люси (07.04.2014)
Старый 07.04.2014, 19:14 Язык оригинала: Русский       #124
Гуру
 
Аватар для K-Maler
 
Регистрация: 02.02.2009
Сообщений: 4,601
Спасибо: 9,551
Поблагодарили 3,679 раз(а) в 1,689 сообщениях
Записей в дневнике: 4
Репутация: 6487
По умолчанию

Цитата:
Сообщение от inquisitive ; 1143301"
Instead of friendly partnership (which should take place between the artist and the gallery ) happened boorish attitude to the artist in order to maximize exploitation of the products of its labor , excluding its rights and legitimate interests .
Rudeness , prosperous society , and not spared our forum. No administrative measures are not able to change the relationship between forum users , turning them into respectful and friendly. It is only by ourselves. So it is necessary to raise this issue before until fall off the base for discussion .
Correct topic , it should support and encourage all to share their observations regarding this problem .
All true. Whereas in the former " St Petersburg" CX with exhibitions It's not lost , then a " tuning " of the situation and " post-Soviet " are not. Example with Africa - confirmation .
I know the artist, gallery owner who " swallowed " 50 paintings under an agreement that did not take place and the effect of co-operation was not comparable to the quality and quantity of work submitted , a quarrel broke through and insults . Another artist taken about ten works sold well and they are " not implemented ", ie Action has been taken to implement them for 10 years. Contact broken. Else like that there is information ...
__________________
"Будьте внимательны, сильные личности. Мне кажется, что в настоящее время нет ничего дороже и реже встречающегося, чем честность" (Ф.Ницше "Так говорил Заратустра".)



K-Maler вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Эти 3 пользователя(ей) сказали Спасибо K-Maler за это полезное сообщение:
mihailovoh (08.04.2014), Люси (07.04.2014), Магнолия (07.04.2014)
Старый 07.04.2014, 20:16 Язык оригинала: Русский       #125
Гуру
 
Регистрация: 24.05.2009
Сообщений: 1,972
Спасибо: 4,937
Поблагодарили 4,308 раз(а) в 1,547 сообщениях
Репутация: 8082
По умолчанию

Цитата:
Сообщение от Grigory Посмотреть сообщение
Received a letter from Inna Khegai:

Fantastic!

She finally accumulated 1800dollarov and wants to pay?



Маруся вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Эти 2 пользователя(ей) сказали Спасибо Маруся за это полезное сообщение:
mihailovoh (08.04.2014), Люси (07.04.2014)
Старый 07.04.2014, 23:30 Язык оригинала: Русский       #126
Авторитет
 
Аватар для Люси
 
Регистрация: 27.07.2009
Адрес: Москва
Сообщений: 779
Спасибо: 8,053
Поблагодарили 6,258 раз(а) в 674 сообщениях
Записей в дневнике: 3
Репутация: 12492
По умолчанию

Цитата:
Сообщение от Grigory; 3075381"
Good day!
I want to ask anyone who knows the whereabouts of the artist's daughter Sergei Alferov Nasty or her new contact numbers, contact me by phone . (499) 230-11-61 or by e-mail inana@list.ru

Accidentally discovered in this thread your name associated with the hard-hitting discussion of the situation , was surprised by the unreliability of information. I knew and helped the late Sergei Alferov , with his daughter was not personally acquainted . How it all happened in reality, can learn from me in person, by writing to the e-mail or by phone .
From Wow! Come to their senses !
I personally came to your gallery with Nastya . Is Nastya came to the payment of all ?

Added after 29 minutes
Three years have passed . I like trying to control it before (I mean Nasty calls to the gallery ) . Of course all this was humiliating for Nastia , so many years after his father's death to get the answer - we all . For so many years she could move like that ... Call a month call two ..
You're Inna worked with this artist . Earned in his works ! ( As you say - help. )
Maybe now your gallery PR .. that you need and responded to ?
Excuse me ... can dramatically .. but I write what I think .




Последний раз редактировалось Люси; 08.04.2014 в 00:02. Причина: Добавлено сообщение
Люси вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Эти 2 пользователя(ей) сказали Спасибо Люси за это полезное сообщение:
mihailovoh (08.04.2014), Маруся (08.04.2014)
Ответ


Ваши права в разделе
Вы не можете создавать новые темы
Вы не можете отвечать в темах
Вы не можете прикреплять вложения
Вы не можете редактировать свои сообщения

BB коды Вкл.
Смайлы Вкл.
[IMG] код Вкл.
HTML код Выкл.

Быстрый переход





Часовой пояс GMT +3, время: 04:48.
Telegram - Обратная связь - Обработка персональных данных - Архив - Вверх


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Перевод: zCarot